Is Apple an American company? (are any Apple products even manufactured in America?)

[BunnySlippers]

You should just ask what electronic tech devices are made in the USA. You are looking for controversy and will get it.

How many TVs are American made?

[doc1019]

I was talking about batteries in general. You know ... D cells, A cells etc.

[Cringing Negativism Network]

I bought a Dell notebook from a well known merchant.

It came shipped in the original sealed, Chinese factory box... with a mailing label and po, simply stuck to the outside of the box.

[Cringing Negativism Network]

Let me post a disclaimer.

It was a while ago, and I also bought an Acer.

Both were made in China, and at least one came in the original sealed Chinese box. Could have been the Acer, I suppose. Just in case my memory isn’t 100% clear.

But they’re both Chinese-made.

[mnehring]

Late to the party? This is common knowledge.

[ThomasThomas]

It pays taxes based on being here.

[Cringing Negativism Network]

So if it’s common knowledge, why do we studiously avoid talking about it?...

[mnehring]

It seems we are talking about it.

[jessduntno]

Starting to sound like a Seinfeld episode...a conversation about a conversation that is never a conversation...

[jim-x]

Yes, most Dells are ‘assembled’ in the U.S. but you would be hard-pressed to find a single component that was manufactured in the U.S. Almost all (if not all) computer components are manufactured in PRC (People’s Republic of China), Taiwan, Japan, Indonesia, etc. We do still make quite a few chips here but not many electronics.
I was surprised to find that many of the Taiwanese companies outsource the actual manufacture to the PRC. I always thought they hated each other but I guess business is business.

[smokingfrog]

Amid rampant demand for iPads and iPhones, Foxconn has cracked down on employee freedoms and forced employees to work longer hours, often times unpaid. Conditions at the Apple plant are reportedly far worse than the working conditions at other Foxconn plants used by Dell, HP, and others.

[agere_contra]

The American manufacturing base has been eroded by excessive taxes, unionisation, excessive regulations and the minimum wage.

If we want America to become the default manufacturer for e.g. Apple hardware, then America must reduce its internal barriers to wealth production. It must compete.

But that's not easy. Competing is hard. It's far easier politically to forget about wealth-production, and to impose tariffs and subsidies.

Tariffs and subsidies practically force Americans to buy expensive crud from feather-bedded domestic suppliers rather than cheap stuff that works from Asia. The result is that everybody gets poorer - but at least no voters had to compete in the real world.

The solution to outsourcing is either to compete, or to recognise that you can't compete and so move into another field of endeavour. In this case: moving into software rather than hardware.

But using governmental fiat and protectionism to stop outsourcing is not a solution: it is sheer wealth-destruction: the transformation of American industry into a welfare state. It would be disastrous.

Hope this was helpful.

[DesScorp]

Apple is no different from any other company. Nobody actually makes things in America anymore, ESPECIALLY electronics. Even Intel is slowly building more production capacity outside of the US.

Apple has “designed in California” on their products, but that means squat to me.

[Cringing Negativism Network]

“It pays taxes based on being here.”

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So then Apple, is different from Cosco (China Ocean Shipping group), in that way at least...

/s

Sort of.

[Sir_Ed]

Well, when Agog meets Gog you know the End Times are nigh!

So you’ll need some Grog!

Ed

[Sir_Ed]

My friend needs a new PC, and I’m a Mac guy, so know little about PC’s.

But I’ve heard about Dell, so I googled them...did you know they DELIBERATELY concealed faulty motherboards from millions of their customers?

There’s a class-action lawsuit going on right now against them, and subpoenaed emails indicate they knoew the motherboards were leaking, yet they told their staffers to deny such, and lie about it.

So..I need to find a good PC to tell her to buy, but I don’t really knwo the market enough.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!

Ed

[Sir_Ed]

Here in Oregon the vaunted silicon chip factories are all shutting down and being moved overseas, putting THOUSANDS upon thousands of Oregonians out of work.

I’m no nativist, but God help me, I simply cannot understand why we, as a nation, allow that. We are destroying our own middle-class base.

Ed

[sushiman]

Americans want cheap . Look at Walmart’s success .

[Sir_Ed]

Sigh...yup.

I learned better, though, ,when I realized years ago that 90% of everything I bought at Wal-Mart breaks down or falls apart within several months.

Everything...toasters, lamps, bookcases, hoses (with BRASS fittings!) mirrors, calculators, everything, it all fell apart/broke within six months of purchase.

Sure, they always replaced said articles, but it was still a hassle.

I only own two Wal-Mart things that have lasted for any amount of time...one, a Magnavox 21” TV that I bought ten years ago that has lasted for all those years, and a French coffee press I got for $9 that has brewed countless thousands of cups of Java.

Ed

[stripes1776]

So..I need to find a good PC to tell her to buy, but I don’t really knwo the market enough.
Any suggestions?

I cannot suggest a brand to buy (except a Mac), but If it's a laptop, I would say to avoid HP. My HP laptop overheats even with the fan racing on high speed. And then it just dies. I have to let it cool down before it will start up again. And then it complains that it was not shut down properly.