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To: presidio9

Well, the abandonment of his family is a sin. Christ said judge not lest ye be judged; He also said to judge with righteous judgment.

As for threatening to kill people, Christ said we are guilty of murder if we do that. I have a hard time with your attitude about that, as though it is no big deal. No one in my family has ever threatened to kill me. As a matter of fact I can’t remember anyone outside of my family threatening to kill me, either. It is a big deal.

When God tells us that a person who abandons his family is worse than a heathen; or that hating people is the sin of murder; he does not make exception for bi polar disorder.

I appreciate that Mel has, or had, black and Jewish friends. Is he perhaps double minded? Or has he descended more and more into sin as the years go on? I don’t know.

The Bible further tells us to have nothing to do with someone who has left the faith, not even to eat with such a one. That would require judgment. There are many instructions about who to fellowship with and who not to. So, the admonition not to judge must be understood in relation to these many instructions.

I do not condemn Mel to hell. I can’t, and anyway, I don’t want to. I do not declare him unforgiveable. It’s not my lookout, and anyway, he has not committed the unpardonable sin so far as I know. In that sense, I don’t judge him.

However, to put him in there with the believers in detention center 20 in North Korea, or the ten Boom family, or Dietrich Bonhoeffer, or the two Margarets, or William Tyndale, and so forth - fantastic, godly Christian who were indeed persecuted for their faith - is absurd, and insulting to the martyrs of today and yesterday.


46 posted on 07/05/2010 12:30:40 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Persevero
Christ said judge not lest ye be judged; He also said to judge with righteous judgment.

And yet you appear to do so anyway.

As for threatening to kill people, Christ said we are guilty of murder if we do that. I have a hard time with your attitude about that, as though it is no big deal. No one in my family has ever threatened to kill me. As a matter of fact I can’t remember anyone outside of my family threatening to kill me, either. It is a big deal.

Thank God for your plain-vanilla existence, I guess. I have had more people than I can count threaten to "kill" me. And yet here I am. Threats don't mean anything when the person issuing the threat has no intention of carrying it out. The police deemed Gibson's threat invalid. That's why they took no action. I can assure you that people do in fact make bogus threats like this sometimes. You can think it's a big deal if you like. The police did not.

When God tells us that a person who abandons his family is worse than a heathen; or that hating people is the sin of murder; he does not make exception for bi polar disorder.

As a matter of fact, you have no idea what God makes an exception for. The Bible does not mention Bi-Polar disorder anywhere that I have noticed.

You also have no idea whether Mel Gibson has or has not left the faith. That is between him and God.

And you are in fact judging him. And it sounds very much to me that you are enjoying it.

And bear in mind that nowhere did I exhalt the man's faith, or compare it to that of others (with the possible exception of people who write articles like this). I have no idea what the man's relationship with God is, just like I have no idea whether he is really suffering from a mental illness. I have never met him, and neither have you, and yet you judge him anyway, and pretend that you don't.

49 posted on 07/05/2010 12:45:56 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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