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Custer's last flag: Little Bighorn banner for sale
London Telegraph ^ | 6/27/2010 | Tom Leonard

Posted on 06/27/2010 7:36:34 PM PDT by Saije

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Classic failure of intelligence. It will be interesting to see who ends up the winning bidder.
1 posted on 06/27/2010 7:36:37 PM PDT by Saije
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As Custer said, “Where in the hell did all them Indians come from?”

Bad intel, like elections, can have devastating consequences.

2 posted on 06/27/2010 7:41:24 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: EagleUSA

Gen. Custer was one of the first to wear an Arrow shirt.


3 posted on 06/27/2010 7:45:58 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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4 posted on 06/27/2010 7:49:00 PM PDT by ladyvet (WOLVERINES!!!!!)
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If he had held onto that 54 dollars for a couple more years, and then invested in the auto companies that were to become General Motors , he would be screwed out of all of it now .
5 posted on 06/27/2010 7:49:45 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know .F Trp 8th Cav)
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The History Channel many years ago had an Oli Stone tin-foil hat episode where Grant was jealous of Custer so he gave his intel to the Indians and had him whacked..


6 posted on 06/27/2010 7:53:45 PM PDT by max americana
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To: EagleUSA

As Custer said, “Where in the hell did all them Indians come from?”

I hope it is 0bama saying those words in November.


7 posted on 06/27/2010 7:53:47 PM PDT by unkus
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I’ve been reading and learning more about this battle and the outcome. There’s a large and popular mythology that surrounds these events - much of which was created by Custer’s wife after his death.

Some items for starters:

1. Custer didn’t surprise the Indians. Their picket riders ran into Custer and discovered the size of Custer’s forces. This forced Custer’s hand as he was weighing the prudence of attacking what his Crow scouts were telling him was a large group of Indians.

2. Custer did know that there was a very large number of Indians in the area. His scouts and trackers were telling him this, but he refused to accept their interpretation of the tracks.

3. In the end, what did the 7th in was a failure of leadership. Custer failed to maintain unit cohesion, failed to deal with insubordinate officers under his command and he attacked without having a clear plan communicated to all units.

I personally can’t understand why someone wpuld cough up millions for this artifact.


8 posted on 06/27/2010 7:54:28 PM PDT by NVDave
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I personally can’t understand why someone wpuld cough up millions for this artifact.

Your susceptibility to slanderous revisionist history is somewhat explained by your understanding difficulties .

9 posted on 06/27/2010 8:01:51 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know .F Trp 8th Cav)
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Two good recent books on Custer and the battle - A Terrible Glory by James Donovan, and The Last Stand by Nathaniel Philbrick.


10 posted on 06/27/2010 8:01:54 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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The land had been ceded to the tribes in perpetuity but, following the discovery of gold there, the US insisted the Indians move to a reservation.


11 posted on 06/27/2010 8:04:36 PM PDT by hellbender
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the Black Hills region in what is now Montana

The Black Hills are in South Dakota. The battle was in MT.

12 posted on 06/27/2010 8:06:02 PM PDT by hellbender
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if by “slanderous” you mean “research that pops the bubble of those who believe the romanticized version of events,” yep I guess that’s what romantics call it.


13 posted on 06/27/2010 8:13:06 PM PDT by NVDave
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The Black Hills do run into MT from SD. Not picking a fight...it’s just geography...The Black Hills National Forest is located in southwestern South Dakota and northeastern Wyoming. You are correct, that the battle happened near the Little Bighorn River near Crow Agency, Montana.


14 posted on 06/27/2010 8:21:28 PM PDT by jessduntno ( "The planet has a fever, and it's in Al Gore's pants." - Howie Carr)
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It is my understanding the flag was recaptured by elements of the 4th Cavalry...is this the same flag for sale?


15 posted on 06/27/2010 8:27:59 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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Interesting. Thanks to all posters. BTTT.


16 posted on 06/27/2010 8:33:45 PM PDT by PGalt
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I’ve read so much about that battle and I still can’t figure out what Custer’s plan was. I know he thought the indians were aware he was in the neighborhood, which is why he attacked in the middle of the day, but what did he figure Reno was going to accomplish with his little attack. And what was the point in sending Benteen off on a wild goose chase?


17 posted on 06/27/2010 8:33:45 PM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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Seems the flag is government property and belongs in a military museum.

Read the article after the 4th Cavalry post..no need to respond.


18 posted on 06/27/2010 8:37:14 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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♬♪ "Please, Mr. Custer" ♩♫


19 posted on 06/27/2010 8:43:59 PM PDT by steelyourfaith (America should take a mulligan on the 2008 presidential election.)
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To: max americana
The History Channel many years ago had an Oli Stone tin-foil hat episode where Grant was jealous of Custer so he gave his intel to the Indians and had him whacked..

Stone really has no concept of reality.

20 posted on 06/27/2010 8:47:42 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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