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Vanity: Seeking opinions on Texas Secession

Posted on 06/25/2010 2:23:46 PM PDT by Fishface

I write a political column in my hometown newspaper. I am writing a column next week proposing that a Texas secession is the only solution to Barack Obama's massive Government expansion. I would like some feedback on the potential positives and negatives of a Texas secession. I really value your critical opinions and want to make sure I am not overlooking any critical aspect of this issue.


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KEYWORDS: secession; texas
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To: IrishCatholic
You hate America, admit it.

I'll admit you are about an ignorant sack of excrement.

See how that works?

YOU make something offensive up, I do the same.

Isn't that nice? Would you like to continue making up offensive things?

The ball is in your court.

61 posted on 06/25/2010 5:30:03 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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To: humblegunner
WE didn't "run it up". We might be open to negotiating about a portion of it.. say 1/57th. Since your boy thinks there are 57 state.

After two Bush's and one LBJ?

I think you should take on a bit more than that. I'm willing to forget the responsibility Texas presidents and Texas Speakers of the House and Texas Senate Majority Leaders had to do with it and would be willing to divide it up based on population. Texas has about 25 million people, or about 8% of the U.S. population. Federal debt at the end of the 2009 fiscal year, the last budget Bush was responsible for, was about $13 trillion. So I figure that Texas' part of that is just around $1 trillion dollars. A nice going away present.

62 posted on 06/25/2010 5:36:19 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
A nice going away present.

We might be able to work with some of that.

Would you like to drill in the Gulf of Texas, by the way?

63 posted on 06/25/2010 5:38:44 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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To: humblegunner
Would you like to drill in the Gulf of Texas, by the way?

It's not all yours. And what you do drill we'll buy from you anyway.

64 posted on 06/25/2010 5:45:39 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
It's not all yours.

There's a few Squids at Ingleside who may disagree.

And a little hardware, too.

But we should all get along.

65 posted on 06/25/2010 5:58:47 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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To: humblegunner
Well, sure. I've got nothing better to do right now.

“The problem with people so eager to tear things down is that they are so obviously incompetent to build things back up and run them.
In this you are no different from Obama and his crew. You both are eager as all heck to tear America to pieces without having the first clue as to build a replacement. The motives might be different, but the goal and methods are the same.”

You didn't refer to this because it hit too close to home.

“Funny you should call me a statist when you are the one willing to kick people out of Texas that don’t follow you in lockstep.”

Since that described you to a T, you also couldn't refer to that.

“The mentality of some people. They always see themselves as the ones outside of the concentration camp wire or running the reeducation classes, never seeing themselves as inside.”

When you call for the secession of Texas, because you have some ill thought out idea that it will be your own private version of...what? What if they adopt laws and policies you don't like? What qualifies as “Texan”? Simple residency? Or do they have to be past members of America that want to be traitors? What if it becomes simple residency and 50.01% want to become Azatlan? Will you willingly join in with La Raza? Is there a race component?

Your mask is slipping.

“I stand for America and freedom both for myself and my fellow Americans. You hate America, admit it. Be proud of who you are. You might not be that bright, but at least you will be honest.”

Your only reply? “I'll admit you are about an ignorant sack of excrement.”

That's because I saw past the mask. In this you share another trait with Socialists such as Obama. You want to do it, you just won't say it. You hide it. You prat about Texas, and the idea of a sovereign Texas, but what you really want is power. You want to make other people fall in line with what you demand,(and you call me statist!).

You promote no ideas. You illustrate no principles to follow or rally around. You just want to tear things down and make it ugly and hateful and just to feel you have some power. When history looks at where the concentration camp guards came from, where the petty officials consigning people to the gulags came from, they will find people just like you.

Make something offensive up? No. I simply called you out. It seems you didn't like it. Too bad.

Back to you slick.

66 posted on 06/25/2010 6:12:54 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: Fishface

Just do it. I’ll come and help. No problem.


67 posted on 06/25/2010 6:19:58 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: mad_as_he$$
Texas lost all right to secede after the Civil War. It was cleverly removed by the Yankees when Texas reentered the Union. I spent a great deal of $$ researching this years ago with one of the best Constitutional law firms in Texas. They concluded no legal way out and even if Texas could there is no mechanism to make it happen. Oh and the five state thing was also nullified after the CW.

And how many divisions do the lawyers have?

68 posted on 06/25/2010 6:21:40 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: IrishCatholic
You didn't refer to this because it hit too close to home.

Or because some things are so ridiculous as to be unworthy of my comment or my time.

Reading through this.. you quote yourself and answser yourself as you know what I would say?

You are pretty pathetic. Points for originality, though.

Quoting and answering yourself is something I don't see every day.

Do you have arguments with yourself often?

Did you have vivid imaginary friends as a child?

Do you still?

Do you know what "furries" are and did you enjoy the last convention?

69 posted on 06/25/2010 6:22:23 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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To: dangerdoc
If Texas does so, then Zero will have been truely successful in destroying this great nation.

And creating a great one - Texas.

70 posted on 06/25/2010 6:22:45 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Owl558
Remember, secession is an act of war

Ridiculous, statement. Secession is the opposite of war. The state wants to LEAVE, the last thing they want is war. Knowing the war like tendencies of people like you, they would have to prepare.

71 posted on 06/25/2010 6:27:47 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: IrishCatholic

Why is the concept of secession so hard for you to grasp?


72 posted on 06/25/2010 6:29:47 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: humblegunner

Well, I refer to them because you won’t. I repost them because you are running from them like a scared little boy, or a bully which might be more accurate.
I repeat them because they pin you down and show your nature in a way you are too cowardly to respond.

There is no argument with myself. I simply choose not to wallow down in the mud with you, but hold you to your ideas...what there are of them.

You are still running away. The childish name calling you are left with is the futile flailings of someone without the ability to refute the points because they are true.

Now, are you remotely man enough to go back to the last post and deal with the issues, or are you going to continue to get smacked around? I don’t mind. I feel a little embarrassed for you, but maybe this will help you grow and become a man.


73 posted on 06/25/2010 6:32:57 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: IrishCatholic; humblegunner
To 58 - Damn, HG! I can tolerate your dislike for the Roman-Catholic Church and C & W music, but America?! I wouldn't doubt if you have a picture of Santa Anna hanging in your humble abode.

I am discombobulated.

jla - Irish, French, American & Catholic

74 posted on 06/25/2010 6:34:21 PM PDT by jla
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To: central_va

It isn’t. I just don’t like scum or traitors.


75 posted on 06/25/2010 6:34:41 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: IrishCatholic
It isn’t. I just don’t like scum or traitors.

How do you live with yourself then? Does drinking help you?

76 posted on 06/25/2010 6:38:03 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: IrishCatholic

You’re right.
I’m a complete enemy of the state.

You have me completely figured out.

You should report me immediately before I destroy the whole country.


77 posted on 06/25/2010 6:47:32 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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To: central_va
Is that what you bring to the table? Tell me you have more than that!
Now I remember. I last saw you running away after getting smacked around last month “17 States Now Filing Versions of Arizona's Immigration Bill SB1070” May 23rd.

You are another little would be dictator who hates America and would tear it to pieces. Maybe you could be the Ambassador from the land of Deluded in Virginia to the new Republic of Petty thug in Texas.

Good thing people who hate America are a minority. And, a not very bright minority at that. America doesn't have a thing to worry about from the likes of you guys.

78 posted on 06/25/2010 6:48:11 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: humblegunner
So, going the victim route, huh? One more thing you have in common with the affirmative action/diversity/spread the wealth socialists. They want to tear things down too, but get upset when opposed.

It's OK if you want to go now. I don't want to make you cry.

79 posted on 06/25/2010 6:52:18 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: IrishCatholic
Good thing people who hate America are a minority.

I hate whaT FedGov™ HAS BECOME. Go on defending it. I love America, freedom and the republic. You worship at the alter of the state uber alles. We know what your kind are capable of


80 posted on 06/25/2010 6:57:18 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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