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Vanity: Seeking opinions on Texas Secession

Posted on 06/25/2010 2:23:46 PM PDT by Fishface

I write a political column in my hometown newspaper. I am writing a column next week proposing that a Texas secession is the only solution to Barack Obama's massive Government expansion. I would like some feedback on the potential positives and negatives of a Texas secession. I really value your critical opinions and want to make sure I am not overlooking any critical aspect of this issue.


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KEYWORDS: secession; texas
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1 posted on 06/25/2010 2:23:50 PM PDT by Fishface
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To: Fishface

All U.S. military bases would probably be closed down causing mass unemployment and possibly leaving Texas even more vulnerable to Mexican cartel violence


2 posted on 06/25/2010 2:29:56 PM PDT by exbrit
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To: Fishface

Why do you think it is possible? I know it’s Texas but do you really think the Dims will let you go?

If it is possible and it happens what do you have to enforce your right to say free?

If you stay free how do you keep from becoming some small Euro style state?


3 posted on 06/25/2010 2:30:34 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: Fishface

War is problematic.

Looking at Dallas, Austin, Harris County and the Valley, I don’t think Texas would be all that conservative.

Complicated issues of property ownership and trade.


4 posted on 06/25/2010 2:31:07 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: Fishface

Texas lost all right to secede after the Civil War. It was cleverly removed by the Yankees when Texas reentered the Union. I spent a great deal of $$ researching this years ago with one of the best Constitutional law firms in Texas. They concluded no legal way out and even if Texas could there is no mechanism to make it happen. Oh and the five state thing was also nullified after the CW.


5 posted on 06/25/2010 2:33:29 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Sometimes you have to go to dark places to get to the light....)
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To: exbrit

While I agree that dealing with Mexico is going to be the greatest challenge. I don’t agree with the unemployment. Texas will lure profitable businesses from the U.S. by offering lower taxes and less regulation. Within a short period of time, Texas will have a booming economy as a result of businesses fleeing the U.S.


6 posted on 06/25/2010 2:33:44 PM PDT by Fishface (teach a man to fish...he eats for a lifetime.)
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To: Fishface
As good as it sounds in principle secession is a last gasp, desperate move. Texas may end up having the other 49 declare war on them. A few more states need to start seriously discussing secession before it becomes even a remote possibility. Another problem is geography. Secession would stand a much better chance if a group of states, all connected geographically seceded together.
7 posted on 06/25/2010 2:34:18 PM PDT by LiberConservative
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To: mad_as_he$$

I am not sure legality will have anything to do with it. If there is a will to secede the only way to prevent it is through force and I don’t think the President of the U.S. would have the will or military to launch an attack on Texas.


8 posted on 06/25/2010 2:36:09 PM PDT by Fishface (teach a man to fish...he eats for a lifetime.)
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To: Fishface

Do you all have any nuke bases in Texas? Seize one and threaten to use them if your are not granted your independence. That’s the only way I can see Texas will every be independent again.


9 posted on 06/25/2010 2:37:44 PM PDT by apillar
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To: Fishface

If Texas does so, then Zero will have been truely successful in destroying this great nation.


10 posted on 06/25/2010 2:38:18 PM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: LiberConservative

I agree that it is a last resort, but then again, the point of my column is that it is the only way to stop what is happening. I am starting with the assumption that Texas is going to secede, then I want to expound on the consequences.


11 posted on 06/25/2010 2:39:27 PM PDT by Fishface (teach a man to fish...he eats for a lifetime.)
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I believe you think wrong. 0 will attack Texas first with withholding Federal money including blocking the movement in and out of electronic funds. He will then blockade the State including the ports. After a short period of time Texas will give up. Last poll I saw said 57% of Texans are not in favor of seceding.
12 posted on 06/25/2010 2:41:25 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Sometimes you have to go to dark places to get to the light....)
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Why not just attempt to write Hussien's documented biography for your column?

Oh, that's right. There isn't any documentation...begin there.

13 posted on 06/25/2010 2:44:42 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, you know chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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To: Fishface

Lots of other states would want to join you.

I feel like our government has been overthrown by a bunch of idiots.


14 posted on 06/25/2010 2:45:09 PM PDT by boycott (CAL)
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To: mad_as_he$$
Mad as he$$ may have researched this years ago using a "top constitutional law firm" but the times they are a changing! Especially given the current gangsta administration that has'nt seen a law it can't ignore!

Analyze the financial implications since social security and medicare payments would stop. What is Texas GDP output and can we sustain our Republic without outside funds.

Can we induce Oklahoma, New Mexico and Louisiana and Arkansas to join us?

We have excellent business schools and law schools, (SMU being one) as well as our State Universities and we can develope a plan to proceed!

15 posted on 06/25/2010 2:45:34 PM PDT by Young Werther ("Quae cum ita sunt" Since these things are so!)
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To: mad_as_he$$

“Last poll I saw said 57% of Texans are not in favor of seceding.”

Wonder what the poll results will be when Texas and other states are forced to help pay the debts of profligate states like California, New York and others?


16 posted on 06/25/2010 2:47:22 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: mad_as_he$$

I read that Texas gives more money to the Federal Government than it receives annually. Also, the citizens of the United States will not stand for a hard line approach to Texas. We barely could get them to support attacking Saddam Hussein and they are going to support strangling Texas.


17 posted on 06/25/2010 2:48:52 PM PDT by Fishface (teach a man to fish...he eats for a lifetime.)
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To: LiberConservative
Secession would stand a much better chance if a group of states, all connected geographically seceded together.

Agreed. Maybe the best way for Texas would be to float a bond issue and buy several surrounding states (Louisiana, Mississippi, Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, New Mexico, and a few others), and then lay claim to all formerly US Govt.-owned assets within the new boundary line of the Republic of Texas. /s (In case you are sarcasm-impaired).

My tagline kinda hints at my feelings about our gummint.

18 posted on 06/25/2010 2:49:18 PM PDT by Don Carlos (Dont tell mom I'm running for congress. She thinks I still play piano in a whorehouse.)
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To: boycott

“I feel like our government has been overthrown by a bunch of idiots.”

I wish that it was just a case of idiots, but fear its much more sinister than that.


19 posted on 06/25/2010 2:49:39 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: LiberConservative

As good as it sounds in principle secession is a last gasp, desperate move. Texas may end up having the other 49 declare war on them.

I don’t agree. I think it would be the spark to take back our country. Writing doesn’t work, marching doesn’t work, and it appears voting won’t rein in the traitors in Washington. Every day, more of our Constitution is shredded, the party of the little guy is mostly silent, the media presents a distorted view of the evil created by Zero and his minions. I may be old, but I am still faithful to the oath taken upon enlistment in the Marine Corps. Semper Fi


20 posted on 06/25/2010 2:50:05 PM PDT by gunner03
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