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Deep Horizon Well System May Collapse (Worst Disaster In Our Lifetimes)
The Oil Drum ^ | 6/13/2010 | The Oil Drum

Posted on 06/15/2010 5:56:32 PM PDT by Dallas59

OK let's get real about the GOM oil flow. There doesn't really seem to be much info on TOD that furthers more complete understanding of what's really happening in the GOM. As you have probably seen and maybe feel yourselves, there are several things that do not appear to make sense regarding the actions of attack against the well. Don't feel bad, there is much that doesn't make sense even to professionals unless you take into account some important variables that we are not being told about. There seems to me to be a reluctance to face what cannot be termed anything less than grim circumstances in my opinion. There certainly is a reluctance to inform us regular people and all we have really gotten is a few dots here and there...

First of all...set aside all your thoughts of plugging the well and stopping it from blowing out oil using any method from the top down. Plugs, big valves to just shut it off, pinching the pipe closed, installing a new bop or lmrp, shooting any epoxy in it, top kills with mud etc etc etc....forget that, it won't be happening..it's done and over. In fact actually opening up the well at the subsea source and allowing it to gush more is not only exactly what has happened, it was probably necessary, or so they think anyway.

So you have to ask WHY? Why make it worse?...there really can only be one answer and that answer does not bode well for all of us. It's really an inescapable conclusion at this point, unless you want to believe that every Oil and Gas professional involved suddenly just forgot everything they know or woke up one morning and drank a few big cups of stupid and got assigned to directing the response to this catastrophe. Nothing makes sense unless you take this into account, but after you do...you will see the "sense" behind what has happened and what is happening. That conclusion is this:

The well bore structure is compromised "Down hole".

That is something which is a "Worst nightmare" conclusion to reach. While many have been saying this for some time as with any complex disaster of this proportion many have "said" a lot of things with no real sound reasons or evidence for jumping to such conclusions, well this time it appears that they may have jumped into the right place...

...read more at the Oil Drum...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: bp; obamaskatrina; oil; spill
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To: ChuckHam

The only way to be sure....


21 posted on 06/15/2010 6:18:44 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: Dallas59
This should be run more like Mission Control at NASA than an exclusive country club function--it is a public matter--transparency, now!)

BP can't obfuscate without the admin's cooperation.

22 posted on 06/15/2010 6:19:47 PM PDT by mewzilla (Still voteless in NY-29. Over 250 roll call votes missed and counting...)
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To: Star Traveler

If any a word of this is true, it’s time to set off some nukes.

One may not be enough, but eventually the problem would be turned to glass/vaporized.

Most of the environmental nuts I’ve encountered since this mess started are happy about this deep down inside. You can just tell. Perhaps 0bama is secretly happy about it too? He sure as hell hasn’t had any sense of urgency toward stopping this thing.


23 posted on 06/15/2010 6:20:38 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Ann Archy; All
Check this out....

Lakeview No. 1--uncontrolled oil gusher

Basically, they hit an oil pocket that blew out the drilling rig, and they could do nothing about it for 18 months until the gusher petered out.
24 posted on 06/15/2010 6:22:09 PM PDT by rottndog (WOOF!!!! Be prepared for what's coming AFTER America......)
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To: Dallas59
OK let's get real about the GOM oil flow.

OK then, lets do. If the oil hadn't leaked it would have been pumped.........Any projected global catastrophe due to the "empty oil reservoir" would happen anyway.

25 posted on 06/15/2010 6:22:40 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Peanut butter was just peanut butter until I found Free Republic.........)
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To: Dallas59

Wow...just read the whole article and it’sscary as hell! What do we do if we’re really looking at a complete reserve leak out? This is beyond my imagination...


26 posted on 06/15/2010 6:23:31 PM PDT by pgkdan (I Miss Ronald Reagan!)
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To: Dallas59

Very...


27 posted on 06/15/2010 6:26:03 PM PDT by pingman (Price is what you pay, value is what you get.)
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To: Dallas59
Early on in this disaster I made a post saying that the spill would become like the Centralia (PA) coal mine fire. Eventually we would all just get used to it. I was being facetious.
28 posted on 06/15/2010 6:36:09 PM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: ChuckHam
I wonder if a small tactical nuke could seal set this off?

Fixed.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

29 posted on 06/15/2010 6:36:49 PM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: Dallas59

Bookmark


30 posted on 06/15/2010 6:43:57 PM PDT by tapatio (In memory of my Dad 5-27-26 2-4-2010)
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To: Dallas59

Now can we nuke it shut the way the Russians do — or is that just urban legend?


31 posted on 06/15/2010 6:45:00 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Ann Archy

I think that is what is creating a lot of fear, that space seemed to eat the mud they put in there and what I gleen is they fear this thing could totally collapse and make matters much worse.


32 posted on 06/15/2010 6:47:51 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: KoRn
One may not be enough, but eventually the problem would be turned to glass/vaporized.

They are drilling two relief wells. Only really need one. My guess is the second one is for the nuke. We have two shots left at stopping this thing. One is the mud and cement route through a relief well and the other will probably be a nuke. If the first relief well misses the main well, it will probably become the nuke well. In that case the second well will try to hit the main well for the mud and cement plugs. Just guessing.

33 posted on 06/15/2010 6:48:40 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Dallas59
Have not read the entire thread. Has anyone heard of the crack in the earth theory? (under the ocean) Any thoughts? Pressure is tremendous.
34 posted on 06/15/2010 6:51:09 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Dallas59
This is one of the most frightening things I've read in a long time, mainly because the real implications of their final conclusion are left unsaid. It seems that TOD is not some "woo woo" site and are not trying to sell fear. God help us if that BOP and the rest of the well structure collapses. We'll be well and truly boned.

This thing seems like the ultimate "black swan" event. For the first few weeks, it didn't seem like that big of a deal, and now we are getting to the point where we have a real possibility of destroying the GoM (and all of the adjacent coastal communities) for hundreds of years.

35 posted on 06/15/2010 6:54:12 PM PDT by thecabal (Destroy Progressivism)
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To: ChuckHam

Sarc tags are definitely needed for such comments!


36 posted on 06/15/2010 6:56:55 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: thecabal
Kinda like when Mt. St. Helens blew up....people predicting "life" will not be there for 20 yrs.

Life has a way of fooling us.....

37 posted on 06/15/2010 6:58:00 PM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: pgkdan

“What do we do if we’re really looking at a complete reserve leak out?”

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Easy, just drive more to use up more oil!

Every reservoir we drill eventually will get emptied for at least a few decades, until it refils.
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38 posted on 06/15/2010 7:02:06 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: Ann Archy

There really isn’t any SPACE or any HOLE. The oil and gas fill permeable rock below. When the oil and gas are released there is just less pressure in the rocks.


39 posted on 06/15/2010 7:03:47 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: ChuckHam
I wonder if a small tactical nuke could seal this off?

Two things. First, explosions tend to make holes bigger. Nuclear explosions make very, very big holes. Second, nuclear weapons are not all that easy to make. It is a fairly complicated process. Do you happen to have one handy that will fit into a 20" pipe? Oh, and it has to survive over 2,000 pounds of sea pressure and at least 6,000 pound of pressure in the pipe that you are going to have to somehow shove it in to. Then you have to set it off.

40 posted on 06/15/2010 7:09:10 PM PDT by Pan_Yan
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