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We can agree to disagree on that one. [I’m unaware of a group of theists who advocate a barbaric level of sadism against the smallest and most helpless among us. (Or perhaps you don’t think babies are anything special, and they should just man up and take being unspeakably and savagely tortured to death like any other adult/older human.)]

So how about Obama’s appearance at Georgetown. He commanded that all Christian symbols be covered before he spoke. Two scenarios:

Agnostic Obama: I’m going to speak at a Christian University. There are symbols of God there. Since I think there may actually exist a god, I’d better be the first speaker in history to order such symbols covered with cheap ply-board and black paint. That way, just in case there really is a god, he will see that he’s been erased from the scene, and realize I’m too humble to be seen in the same room as his symbols.

Atheist Obama: I’ll speak at this Christian University, but damned if I’ll be seen in the same room as symbols of this phony Christian myth-god. People might get the impression I believe in Him, and that’s unaccetable.

We can agree to disagree on that one. [I’m unaware of a group of theists who advocate a barbaric level of sadism against the smallest and most helpless among us.

Unfortunately, there are lots of pro-abortion people who believe in God and fancy themselves Christians. They may not be true Christians, but they certainly do believe in God, or at the very least, some vague "higher power."

To take another extreme example, Hitler was a theist. Some athesists will say he was a Christian, which IMHO is a stretch, as his theology was massively at odds with that of any mainstream demonination. He had some place for Christ in his religious "system," but his idea of Jesus was so massively different from what any Christian Church had ever taught, that to call him "Christian" is to make a mockery of language.

Nevertheless, he certainly was a thesit. Of that there is no doubt.

So how about Obama’s appearance at Georgetown. He commanded that all Christian symbols be covered before he spoke. Two scenarios:

There's a third scenario. He's a wishy-washy theist who belives in some vague higher power, but doesn't like organized religion. He despises the moral code imposed by Christianity, and doesn't like the doctrinal orthodoxy demanded by most Christian churches, so he doesn't like Christian symbols.

Again, you don't have to be an atheist to not like Christian symbols.

I agree with you that he's most likely not an agnostic.