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To: Fantasywriter
We can agree to disagree on that one. [I’m unaware of a group of theists who advocate a barbaric level of sadism against the smallest and most helpless among us.

Unfortunately, there are lots of pro-abortion people who believe in God and fancy themselves Christians. They may not be true Christians, but they certainly do believe in God, or at the very least, some vague "higher power."

To take another extreme example, Hitler was a theist. Some athesists will say he was a Christian, which IMHO is a stretch, as his theology was massively at odds with that of any mainstream demonination. He had some place for Christ in his religious "system," but his idea of Jesus was so massively different from what any Christian Church had ever taught, that to call him "Christian" is to make a mockery of language.

Nevertheless, he certainly was a thesit. Of that there is no doubt.

So how about Obama’s appearance at Georgetown. He commanded that all Christian symbols be covered before he spoke. Two scenarios:

There's a third scenario. He's a wishy-washy theist who belives in some vague higher power, but doesn't like organized religion. He despises the moral code imposed by Christianity, and doesn't like the doctrinal orthodoxy demanded by most Christian churches, so he doesn't like Christian symbols.

Again, you don't have to be an atheist to not like Christian symbols.

I agree with you that he's most likely not an agnostic.

166 posted on 06/15/2010 12:40:46 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity

Do you have a quote, where Hitler mentions his theistic beliefs?

Your explanation of Obama’s removal of the symbols is the weakest of the three, imho. Unless you can be more convincing, I’ll go with the simplest and most straightforward explanation, since it dovetails the radical views he’s taken on infanticide.

Btw, who is the highest profile Christian, or so called Christian (other than Obama) that’s championing the cause of partial birth abortion, and who has also taken a strong public stand in favor of allowing babies who survive abortion to die in the used linen room. Since you referenced them, you must know their names.


167 posted on 06/15/2010 12:51:48 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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