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Why I Despise Progressives
June, 2010 | Ward Dorrity

Posted on 06/10/2010 4:32:32 PM PDT by Noumenon

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Got to thinking about so-called 'progressives'...
1 posted on 06/10/2010 4:32:32 PM PDT by Noumenon
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To: Noumenon

PROGRESSIVE...Code word for “neo-Marxist”.


2 posted on 06/10/2010 4:36:11 PM PDT by AlexW (Now in the Philippines . Happy not to be back in the USA for now.)
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To: Noumenon
Not quite as nuanced a discussion as yours, but it does fit on a bumper-sticker:


3 posted on 06/10/2010 4:36:50 PM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: Oceander

I like it. Short, and to the point.


4 posted on 06/10/2010 4:40:23 PM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: Noumenon

i hate them because EVERYthing, every policy that support actually does the opposite of their intention. ALL their policy hurt the poor and less fortunate in society


5 posted on 06/10/2010 4:41:17 PM PDT by 4rcane (Tennessee flood)
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To: Noumenon

bump for later reading.


6 posted on 06/10/2010 4:45:49 PM PDT by AdvisorB (Obamatude could be defined by Blago as something tangible, but not quite as tangible as JJJ's offer.)
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To: Noumenon

I LOVE ‘progressives...properly cooked


7 posted on 06/10/2010 4:46:11 PM PDT by Valin
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I’ve always found them to be a little too gamy for my taste...


8 posted on 06/10/2010 4:48:26 PM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: Noumenon
You understand everything about them that you need to know. Please know also that you have a great deal of company. Many of those who go along with the schemes of Progressives do not understand their true intentions or, in the alternative, manage to convince themselves that they are well-intentioned souls concerned only with the advancement of human kindness. Nothing could be further from the truth.

When individual rights are subsumed to the collective, very bad things happen. Always. It is up to those clear-headed enough to understand the true intentions and unavoidable consequences of collectivism to stop its advance, even in the interest of those fooled by its phony appeals to humanity, which serve to mask a desire for power and unearned wealth.

9 posted on 06/10/2010 4:50:36 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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For what it’s worth, I’m trying to present different approaches, different facets to the same argument. It’s good to know history, but it’s even more important for folks to be absolutely clear as to the nature of the enemies of human freedom and the dangers they present to all that we care about.

So I beg everyone’s indulgence if I appear to repeat myself.

It’s a test of the premises, and practice for presenting the material to a wider audience. Thanks for your kind words...


10 posted on 06/10/2010 4:57:52 PM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: Noumenon

Self ping. Great essay.

APf


11 posted on 06/10/2010 5:00:01 PM PDT by APFel (Regnum Nostrum Crescit)
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To: Noumenon

Modern liberals have nothing in common with the original, real Progressives (who probably spin in their graves whenever the label is attached to our current wackos)


12 posted on 06/10/2010 5:00:40 PM PDT by RepublicanMeansAmerican
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To: Noumenon

13 posted on 06/10/2010 5:28:43 PM PDT by Bean Counter (Stout hearts...)
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Modern liberals have nothing in common with the original, real Progressives ...

You sure about that?

Some of the original Progressives, George Bernard Shaw in particular if I recall correctly, thought it perfectly acceptable to "humanely execute" people if they were not, for whatever reason, adequately productive.

14 posted on 06/11/2010 4:45:52 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: RepublicanMeansAmerican

Woodrow Wilson would be genuflecting to Obama if he were alive today.


15 posted on 06/11/2010 4:48:06 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (November 4, 2008 - the day America drank the Kool-Aid)
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To: Noumenon

The irony of the progressive message is that as an individual, you are not capable of governing yourself, but, some of us (government) are capable of governing all of us.

The “better than you at living” crowd as I call them.


16 posted on 06/11/2010 4:49:31 AM PDT by IamConservative (Liberty is all a good man needs to succeed.)
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To: Noumenon

Bump for later.


17 posted on 06/11/2010 4:52:31 AM PDT by Vigilantcitizen
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To: DuncanWaring

Wasn’t Shaw connected to English Fabian Socialism? I guess I was thinking about American Progressives who promoted an American ideal to cope with the demographic changes after 1880. That is “foreign” to (whatever they are) today.


18 posted on 06/11/2010 5:26:08 AM PDT by RepublicanMeansAmerican
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To: RepublicanMeansAmerican

Yes, Shaw does appear to have signed-on with the Fabian Socialists.


19 posted on 06/11/2010 6:53:52 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

H.G Wells was one of that crowd, too. Some of his utopian visions were genuinely scary.


20 posted on 06/11/2010 8:35:57 AM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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