He sure looks like his brother!
Posted on 06/07/2010 9:19:32 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
I remember a psychic telling the Holloways that she sees Natalee in water near cement.
I do believe people could have visions such as yours that are correct.
He sure looks like his brother!
Has a law been passed stating that the census need do more than enumerate residents?
Please read through Title 13 of the United States Code.
There is no way to know unless someone checks out that well. All I know is the picture won’t let me alone. I think of it every time I hear Natalie’s name mentioned. Wish there was some way to get the authorities to check it out so if I’m wrong I can let it go.
Well well well.......enough with your well theory. But a ticket to Aruba and view the well you are wishing will hold answers. Throw a few pennies in for me, I’ll pay you back.
There are many problems/holes in his story.
I don’t know why you would think his story is basically true. He has never told the truth one time and his changed his story about Natalee over and over. His story here is clearly contrived to fit the evidence, and let’s not forget that it took place on the exact 5th anniversary of Natalee’s death.
Two girls went missing from casinos in Columbia while Joran was there. Investigators from Bogota are en route to Lima now. But hey, maybe they, too, were snooping, got caught, attacked Joran and he had to kill them in a rage, too.
I don’t know about you, but I always break the neck of anybody I find snooping, bash their head into a wooden bed frame, beat them with a tennis racket until at least one eye is bludgeoned from its socket, and then I make sure to rob them on my way out the door. They shouldn’t have been snooping. By jove, that’ll teach ‘em a lesson!! But people never get beaten when they’re robbed or when they refuse to give up their debit card PIN and their jewelry. That never happens. (roll eyes)
Occam’s Razor.
Urine gets his money through robbery, scams, conning women, loan sharks, and so forth. He used to get it from his parents, but now that Scumbag Sloot Sr. kicked off a few months ago, the family finances haven’t been real great. They weren’t real wealthy even when he was around. Sometimes Urine wins at poker, but mostly he loses, according to many people who have played in casinos with him. The place he was staying in Lima was a dump. He isn’t rolling in money. He’s always scrounging and hustling for cash. He got some money from the Aruban government for being arrested and not convicted (yeah, that’s the Aruban Way) but he burned through that in no time. He’s a gambling addict and he’s always on the hustle. He made some money in Thailand acquiring and sending young Thai women back to Der Nederland and other western Euro countries for prostitution but apparently fell out of favor either with the Thai government or the local underworld there, or perhaps both.
The Dutch consulate in Lima got him a volunteer attorney. How long that attorney will serve is unknown. I don’t know if the attorney is just representing him through this first phase or will be permanent.
Urine’s story is evolving. He now claims his 115 lb. female victim struck his 6’5” 235 lb. self first. He claims that in the time it took him to go next door to get two coffees, she got on his laptop computer, immediately found out who he is, found all his files on Natalee and fired on him about it when he came back. He now says she struck him first and it made him mad so he lost control and accidentally killed her. He also now says he was under the influence of marijuana, which in Peru can bring sentencing leniency. Everything Urine has said happened fulfills a mitigating element that would decrease his sentence. He comes up with this story after he gets the freebie lawyer. Coinkidink? I think not.
He has a very high IQ that has a problem with ever being met with discipline. This will end up in mass frustration that leads to hormones accepting his dates. He kills in response. The man kills those that deny his sexual demands.
Columbian law enforcement authorities are en route from Bogota to Lima to question Joran about two girls who went missing from casinos apparently during his recent visit there.
Heh.
The house where he told the Holloways Natalee was buried (to get the extortion money)? That turned out to be a house that hadn’t even been built 5 years ago when Natalee was killed.
He is the most evil, sick F**k I’ve ever seen. The only one who comes close is Richard Allen Davis (Polly Klaas killer).
It makes no difference what he had on his computer. If there was something incriminating there and he was worried that Stephany might tell, all he had to do was erase it or throw the damn thing into the sea. Besides, nobody can do anything with a witness or information that “I saw such and such on Joran Van Der Sloot’s computer.” No search warrant, no subpoena, nothing like that would ever be done by Aruba and Joran knows that, so he had nothing to fear from her seeing anything incriminating on his laptop because such information would go absolutely nowhere and Joran knows that. His dad taught him how the system works, he saw that even in the face of considerable evidence, Aruban judges refused to issue a search warrant for the Sloot property, and that’s just one of several hundred examples of Aruba covering up for him. Joran had NO WORRIES about anything Stephany allegedly saw.
It’s all bullshit.
This was mainly about robbery. Thus far, there’s no evidence of sexual assault, although she was wearing a shirt and just underwear when found. There may be more learned about that in the future, but as it stands right now, sex doesn’t appear to be the motive.
Thanks for the update. I heard that on the news last night. I’m glad they are looking into the other cases. Too bad he’s probably killed who knows how many now before finally being caught. None-the-less, I’m glad they have him in custody.
It’s too bad he’s lawyered up now and adding all these lies as to what happened that will get him a lighter sentence. I hope if he does, in fact, reenact what went on in the hotel that his story doesn’t fit what evidence is there. He may be smart, but I hope they have some good forensics people to show the truth of what happened.
Peruvian authorities aren’t confirming the Bogota, Colombia cases at this time. The story came out on Spanish radio last night or late yesterday afternoon, but Peru hasn’t confirmed it, so apparently it turns out that report is somewhat iffy.
I’ll keep you posted if I learn more about its accuracy, one way or the other.
Sounds like quite the “networker”.
Must be difficult - navigating such a spider web without a moral compass...
In every training we've had, EVERYONE gets finger-printed, and is not allowed to complete the training without a fingerprint check (This is why James O'Keefe had to bail partway through HIS training). As to why KNOWN criminals are getting through this filter, you've got me there.
There are reports Stephanie was carrying around $1000 given to her by her dad to buy a new computer, plus another grand or so in poker winnings that night. However, no money was found with her body.
So, you may be right that he committed a robbery. But it still doesn't make sense for him to carry it off so sloppily as to guarantee his capture. I still think the robbery was an after-thought, that he found and stole the money after killing her in a fit of rage. Hopefully, that's what went down, because then, under Peruvian law, he gets life, instead of possibly getting out before he's 30 (assuming he doesn't get snuffed in prison).
There is other evidence in the case that involves observations about his financial condition and emails to friends pleading for loans that indicate the acquisition of funds was the primary subject on his mind. He’d also just finished extorting $25k from the Holloways which he apparently lost at gambling and to pay for his travel and accommodations.
Stephany was a self-identified lesbian and Joran allegedly knew that. It hasn’t been confirmed by Peruvian law enforcement, but there’s a suspicion that she went with Joran to look at his laptop because she was interested in buying it from him and/or because he was going to repay her some money she loaned him for gambling. Either of these would be a ruse on his part to lure her to his room to rob her. Peruvian LE have reported that forensics indicate she was killed between 6:30 am and 7:30 am, which would be 1-2 hours after they left the casino, NOT after he went for coffee.
If he flew into a rage, it seems more likely it was because she wouldn’t get money out of her bank for him or get money from her dad or give him her debit card and PIN, something along those lines. LE also reports that he tried to get her body out of the room but was unable to get her into his duffle bag, even though she’s pretty small.
At any rate, LE doesn’t believe sexual assault was the reason for the murder, at least that’s their position at this time. I don’t think they have all the forensic test results in, however. But the autopsy indicates no sexual assault, no attempted sexual assault. OTOH, it’s a strong Latino country and sexual assaults are an insult to the family. Perhaps the LE is keeping that info under wraps out of respect for the victim’s father and four brothers. I don’t rule it out 100%, either, but I really think robbery was the driving force.
Another fact that points to pre-meditation (albeit disorganized pre-meditation) is the date: May 30th. It was, to the day, the fifth anniversary of the death of Natalee. Pretty damn freaky coincidence if it was just a sudden, unexpected rage killing. Maybe killing Stephany on May 30th and leaving her body was a subconscious way of admitting he killed Natalee since he can’t produce her body long since disposed of in the ocean.
Anyway, it’s just like a Greek or Shakespearean tragedy in terms of the Van Der Sloots. The overall story in terms of the victims is sort of biblical, with Joran, the antagonist, headed to Dante’s Inferno. It is the most bizarre thing I’ve ever seen. With so many parallels to great literary works, it’s mind-boggling.
It was reported today that the Columbian law enforcement folks are stepping back for the near future while Peru gets all their ducks in a row. Apparently intruding at this critical time could actually be detrimental to both countries’ cases, so Columbia will wait a bit to investigate.
I doubt that Columbia would be interested unless they had Joran on tape at the casinos when these girls went missing. I don’t know if it was one event with two girls or two separate incidents.
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