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The One-Hour Meltdown
How to Survive Hard Times ^ | July 22, 2009 | Robert Wayne Atkins, P.E.

Posted on 06/06/2010 11:52:21 PM PDT by Windflier

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To: GiveMeLibertyOrDeath
Psalm 91

Half of the unprepared will be shivering in their stranded vehicles in a traffic jam, reading Psalm 91, or some such.

The other half of the unprepared will be going from vehicle to vehicle, or house to house, barbequeing the carcasses therein, and stripping the vehicles or houses of any useful materials.

Willful ignorance is the essence of evil.

81 posted on 12/04/2011 10:42:24 PM PST by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: Lazamataz

Yummy. Make me one too!


82 posted on 12/04/2011 10:55:12 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Windflier

Bump to keep the thread going.


83 posted on 01/16/2012 3:13:00 PM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: PLMerite

Bump-de-rebump


84 posted on 01/16/2012 6:36:58 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Mark


85 posted on 01/16/2012 6:40:32 PM PST by sport
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To: sport

bookmark


86 posted on 01/16/2012 6:49:50 PM PST by jusduat (probably lost)
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To: Noumenon

How’s the cost of living in Northern Idaho?


87 posted on 01/16/2012 8:18:29 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc

Not too bad - the trick is making a living here. Gas is just under $3/gallon. Food is creeping up, but careful shopping helps there. Lot of good local meat and produce.

Power and water depends a lot on where you are. There’s everything from Avista, a supporter of ‘sustainability’, to the Kootenai Electric Cooperative, which has kept things reaonable for now. Our water is produced by a local outfit with virtually the first take out of the Rathdrum Aquifer. The well head is local, defendable and has backup power.

Then there’s a lot of DIYers for power and water. Your own well isn’t cheap - about $20K to get it done and you may have to go 600+ feet to hit an aquifer channel. Some folks around here haul their water in 500 gallon tanks set on the bed of a pickup. Some friends of ours did just that for over 20 years befor they saved up enough to put in a well and the infrastructure to support it.

There are basically two kinds of real estate to be had. There are the no-hopers who bought at or near the top of the bubble and will never get what they hope to get for thier property. Local example are a bunch of California alpaca rancher wanna-bes who bought 20 acres, cut down a nice young forest to the last tree (they said that they didn’t like pine trees), sectioned it off in little one acre lots and hoped to rent it out to other alpaca farmers. Never panned out ,and they just left a bunch of piles of slash in place of that nice forest. Jerks. The three families built their modular homes within spitting distance of one another, making it a tough sell in the best of circumstances. Now it’s deserted, with nothing but yard lights on and a Sotheby’s sign that gets no action. When the lights go out, I’ll know that they’ve truly walked away.

Then there are the real deals offered by folks who ran out their luck but don’t have the upside down problems that the first lot have. They just want as much of their equity as they can get to make a new start elsewhere. Seen quite a few of those.


88 posted on 01/16/2012 9:07:21 PM PST by Noumenon ("I tell you, gentlemen, we have a problem on our hands." Col. Nicholson-The Bridge on the River Qwai)
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To: Windflier

ping for later


89 posted on 02/12/2012 9:43:41 AM PST by jpsb
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To: Windflier

In my state, back in the end of October, you may recall the freak snow storm we had that took out the power to the whole state of CT for a couple of weeks. Unfortunately, I had a somewhat minor, but scary, medical emergency, that would have normally only required a doc office visit. When they were called, the answering service didn’t even work. No walk-in-clinics were open. My only recourse was to have someone drive me to an ER. The ER was open, on emergency power, albeit lightly staffed; one doc, one nurse. I got seen, as was in and out in only 20 mins. Problem solved.

What was very disconcerting...my medical co-pay went from $15.00 to $100. b/c of the crazy circumstances.

My rambling point is, that if our power grid goes down, no one’s medical histories will be available, and we will be f’ed. Unless your particular doctor’s office has a generator, I doubt if you will be seen.


90 posted on 02/12/2012 12:20:03 PM PST by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Daffynition
...if our power grid goes down, no one’s medical histories will be available, and we will be f’ed. Unless your particular doctor’s office has a generator, I doubt if you will be seen.

If the U.S. grid goes down for any serious length of time, America will be instantly transported to the mid nineteenth century. Your medical history will be whatever you remember to tell the local sawbones about it.

91 posted on 02/12/2012 7:58:33 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Yep. It will be nightmare. After the incident I described......I couldn’t find any pharmacies that were open for business....took me 2 days to find one.....................then.................. I got an invoice for the ER visit a month later..........my insurance was charged $4,800. WTH?


92 posted on 02/12/2012 8:03:08 PM PST by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Windflier

BFL


93 posted on 05/02/2013 2:45:34 PM PDT by ssschev (Pick up the can, throw out the trash.)
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To: Noumenon

I liked that part too. I moved to central KY from Seattle before reading this thread and that list describes where I live.

Nice!


94 posted on 01/02/2015 7:59:13 AM PST by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: cuban leaf

It’s 19 F and snowing at a pretty good clip at the moment. Just did my morning property line walk-around; dead quiet and absolutely gorgeous. It’s nice to live in an area where you can walk around your grounds with an M4gery slung over your shoulder. Nobody would think twice about it even if they saw you.


95 posted on 01/02/2015 8:12:49 AM PST by Noumenon (Resistance. Restoration. Retribution.)
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To: Noumenon
Sounds like you have in Idaho what I have in KY!

BTW, here's my place. I bought the 12 acres in 2008 and the 20 in 2013. Two streams and a natural well and enough lumber to heat and build, if necessary. I STILL need to get solar though.
http://s409.photobucket.com/user/robbbb4/slideshow/Kentucky%20home

96 posted on 01/02/2015 8:33:01 AM PST by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Noumenon

One of the guys I worked with at Fort Knox has property in the mountains of Idaho. My in laws used to as well. I remember it being up the hill from what I think was called “Twin Lakes”. We lost our kick dog there while spending a weekend. He wondered off and never came back.


97 posted on 01/02/2015 8:35:17 AM PST by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: cuban leaf

You’ve got a beautiful place. The fact that you’ve got on-property water is a huge plus. Nice tractor, too.

We recently gave up our semi-permanent loaner Kubota B7300 to the folks who bought their place from its original owner. Not much more than a jumped-up lawn tractor, really. They’re going find out that they’ll going to need more tractor for the size of the place they now own.

We replaced it with a well-restored 1979 Kubota L225DT. Came with a loader and a 6’ back blade. Now that’s more like it. What used to take multiple passes to plow our driveway now takes just 2.

Twin Lakes is not too far from where we are, btw. Sorry to hear about the dog. We’ve lost several cats over the years to the local predators, but that’s life out here.


98 posted on 01/02/2015 8:50:56 AM PST by Noumenon (Resistance. Restoration. Retribution.)
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To: Noumenon

I was glad the dog “got it”. Sorry, but it was a real pain.

I use my tractor for two things: A box to smooth the driveway and a bushhog. And even a REAL tractor can be pushed. If I get the box too full going up the driveway, the wheels will just spin. Even with those treads.


99 posted on 01/02/2015 9:17:04 AM PST by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Windflier

For later reading


100 posted on 01/02/2015 9:21:15 AM PST by riri (Obama's Amerika--Not a fun place.)
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