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Feds get picky over what makes oil 'extra virgin'
AP ^ | 060410 | JULIANA BARBASSA

Posted on 06/04/2010 4:31:40 PM PDT by Artemis Webb

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To: JRandomFreeper
The federal government has no constitutional power to regulate food. Regardless of Supreme Court ruling.

An oxymoron. Them's the rules. Don't like 'em, amend the Constitution and change 'em.

121 posted on 06/04/2010 8:14:32 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: 1010RD
1. We stop buying ACME brand and tell all our friends.
2. We could sue ACME under class action for damages.
3. 1. or 2. would end ACME as a company and vitamin producer.

Now here's what would happen in the real world: You sue Acme and they dissolve the corporation, all their assets vanishing through the magic of bookkeeping. The principals take their ill gotten gains and set up another corporation and do the same thing. Repeat until you go broke suing them and getting nothing or they have too much money to bother perpetuating the scam.

122 posted on 06/04/2010 8:23:43 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Mr_Moonlight

I would love to have one of those bottles.


123 posted on 06/04/2010 8:35:21 PM PDT by Defiant (Obama hawking Special K-- www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rDJdHQspuI)
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To: Riley

Who knows? It’s a fictional character.


124 posted on 06/04/2010 8:47:45 PM PDT by Defiant (Obama hawking Special K-- www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rDJdHQspuI)
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To: All
Wow...amazing. Thread turns into a "I'm more Freeper than You are" pissing contest and we're talking about olive oil.

If someone is not aware of the advantage of having olive oil labeled correctly as to what it contains...well...heck with 'em...they deserve what they get.

I happen to live in a country that very loosely controls what can be sold as "Extra Virgin Olive Oil" and its a nightmare sometimes getting what you want.
Look up 'pomace' and see what it is. Pomace gets added to Olive oil and its still labeled 'Extra Virgin' here. It ain't good. The quality of the oil - and thats why I want EV Olive Oil - suffers. It makes it bitter rather than sweet...like it should be.

Stupid arguments about a very common-sense thing. Make the label accurate. Do what is required to protect food safety.
And yes, IMO it is a matter of 'food safety.'
125 posted on 06/04/2010 9:43:42 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus)
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To: JRandomFreeper

The point of the FTC action is to make customary market standards enforceable by setting up objective scientific measures. Milton Friedman, who did more to revive free market economics after the New Deal than almost anyone, saw government as having an essential role in setting the “rules of the game” by which free markets operate. That means laws like the Uniform Commercial Code, Landlord-Tenant Acts, food and drug safety laws, and, yes, even rules on the composition and labeling of olive oil.


126 posted on 06/04/2010 10:32:02 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: narses
Feds get picky over what makes oil 'extra virgin'

There's an off-color joke in there somewhere, fortunately, it's too early for me to think that way...

127 posted on 06/05/2010 4:42:24 AM PDT by MaggieCarta (The trouble with socialism is socialism.The trouble with capitalism is capitalists. RIP WFB, Jr)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Excellent reply. That does happen and often, particularly in the vitamin industry or construction.

How does the market cope?

In the vitamin industry you have several independent sources evaluating vitamin content and testing for consumers. Look them up on the internet. You don’t have to blind buy.

In the construction industry having a license indicates nothing at all. To become a “licensed and bonded” contractor costs as little as $300.00. It is a highly regulated industry that is full of crooks.

How does the market cope?

People seek out recommendations or pick from narrow affiliations like the National Association of the Remodeling Industry (NARI).

What too many conservatives have forgotten is that humanity is messy. Through government schooling we’ve been trained to believe that government can solve our problems.

Nothing human is perfect. Seeking perfection is Utopian and liberal. It is nonsense to pretend that Caveat Emptor isn’t real.

If you don’t do your due diligence it is your problem in a government regulated market or not. The goal of conservatism is to conserve individual liberty, nothing more.


128 posted on 06/05/2010 5:05:29 AM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: narses

This is neither a weight or a measure.


129 posted on 06/05/2010 5:21:36 AM PDT by B Knotts (Impeach Obama)
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To: B Knotts

LOL, how not? Defining grades of a commodity are certainly definable as both measures and elements of interstate and international trade. Clear, defined parts of federal authority.


130 posted on 06/05/2010 5:38:07 AM PDT by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: narses

A measure is ounces, inches, etc. That’s clearly what was meant by “weights and measures.”

To claim otherwise is to accept the federal Leviathan’s interpretation of Constitutional terms, like “the Commerce Clause means we can regulate anything and everything.”


131 posted on 06/05/2010 5:41:27 AM PDT by B Knotts (Impeach Obama)
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To: narses

By the way, there is nothing stopping a state from regulating this. But it’s not part of legitimate federal authority.

The anti-Federalists were right.


132 posted on 06/05/2010 5:44:54 AM PDT by B Knotts (The anti-Federalists were right.)
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To: B Knotts

“But it’s not part of legitimate federal authority.”

In your mind.


133 posted on 06/05/2010 7:05:27 AM PDT by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: Brugmansian

Re #116:

My FRiend all I can say is that when I need an expert on “dolomitic limestone” I’m going to come to you first. :)


134 posted on 06/05/2010 10:04:41 AM PDT by Artemis Webb (DeMint 2012)
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To: narses

Well...I thought we were constitutionalists around here, mostly. I guess i was wrong.


135 posted on 06/05/2010 8:46:07 PM PDT by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: B Knotts

Nope. Your delusional misreading of law and history fooled you, that’s all.


136 posted on 06/05/2010 8:55:50 PM PDT by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: JRandomFreeper
You read that to say that congress can control everything bought and sold in the United States?

The word is not "control", it's "regulate". Requiring truth-in-advertising between the states is a legitimate form of regulation to me.

137 posted on 06/06/2010 6:05:22 AM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: JRandomFreeper
Straw man argument. Part of the Constitutional enumerated powers of the federal government is the establishment of courts. States, by their nature, have the power to establish courts to punish fraud.

So if I sit down with my friends at a game of poker and bluff them out of the pot, you want the government to come after me for fraud. What a statist you are! Why should a private entity be governed by a another private entity on the definition of "extra virgin"? Since the feds usually aren't doing anything productive anyway, just have them define it and then no need for fraud civil trials all across the land because now there is no doubt what "extra-virgin" means, it's been defined by our representatives.

By the way I purchase EVOO and would like to know these companies are honest when they put EV on the lable...it's damned expensive.

138 posted on 06/06/2010 6:13:42 AM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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