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Conservative Friend of Bill in Distress, seeking FR FoB input/comment
5/27/2010 | zzeeman

Posted on 05/27/2010 1:23:54 PM PDT by zzeeman

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OK, my first posting of any sort. Thanks for any insights that you may have! (Feel free to FReepmail me if that works better for you.)
1 posted on 05/27/2010 1:23:55 PM PDT by zzeeman
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To: zzeeman

...seek a more comfortable atmosphere.


2 posted on 05/27/2010 1:27:14 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)
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I just skimmed your post but honestly if I had issues with AA I would move myself to a dry county in Alaska if I had to. Sometimes we can’t help ourselves and need to be removed from temptation and opportunity.

Thank God we live in a country where we choose where to live and how to live.


3 posted on 05/27/2010 1:29:51 PM PDT by dila813
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That was really long and I faded in and out while reading it. Welcome to sobriety and conservatism, not that the two always go hand in hand but it takes strength to admit the errors of our ways and work to change for the better.

If I were you I’d swallow my political beliefs for the sake of my health and go to the meetings with the Obama supporters. If you don’t have your health, you have nothing. Besides that, you might be able to bring a few with you.


4 posted on 05/27/2010 1:30:27 PM PDT by Grunthor (Faster than the speed of smell.)
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Find a new sponsor, NOW, let go of the old one, and in the future only go to meetings where you don't have to deal with serious Obots.

See if there are some political volunteer jobs you can do, so you can hang out with some NON-AA folks who have interests up your alley and share your world view.

5 posted on 05/27/2010 1:30:27 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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No answers for you, just wanted you to know somebody read your post. Good luck.


6 posted on 05/27/2010 1:31:57 PM PDT by Siouxz
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My advice. Stay true to yourself above all else or you will not be worth much to either yourself or others.

You are amazing and strong.

You do not need ANY member of the group to be conservative for you to benefit from a program that you know works.

Find the other two or three conservatives and befriend them if it helps.

Lastly...I give way to much advice, lol !

I am very impressed with your story and wish you all the best! I hope others here who have gone through the amazing program will respond to you either in freep mail or here on the forum! God Bless ya zzeeman!

7 posted on 05/27/2010 1:32:12 PM PDT by Republic (Stop the horrific liberals from spending ONE MORE DIME before they destroy our nation.)
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Just had a thought, when I lived in a blue state I found that some of the local large churches had their own programs. You don’t have to be a member of their church to go in many cases.


8 posted on 05/27/2010 1:32:15 PM PDT by dila813
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The program is based on spiritual principles whereas the traditional addict/alkie resembles your core liberal type, expects things done for them, someone owes them something, not self sufficient etc.

There are meetings and groups that you can go to where the work is on recovery. Big Book Step study is fairly no BS. Men only meetings are more hard core recovery as well. Avoid the meetings with women and especially college age and twenty-somethings.

Another thing to consider is that when a liberal speaks it is really just another symptom of the disease talking. Say a prayer for them and perhaps they will “get it” some day.

Jan 1989 was my last drink.


9 posted on 05/27/2010 1:32:16 PM PDT by misterrob (Have you tea bagged a liberal today?)
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The other issue that I have with AA in more general terms is this: does anyone else see a problem with people being so indoctrinated to “keeping out of the debating society” and being so deadly afraid of their “stinking thinking” that they are so unwilling to even spend a few hours looking outside of their “comfort zone” politically? I’ve spent some time searching the Web to see if there is anything available along the lines of “how does a Conservative function happily in AA?” and haven’t come across anything


My brother was in AA for a year, He had been a practicing alcoholic for over a decade. He left AA after one year of sobriety. He’s never been back and never had another drop to drink (his kids would tell on him if he did)......but he doesn’t think too highly of AA. He cannot figure out why people feel the need to continue going for years on end.

I told him that people are just different and some need that brotherhood or fellowship, whatever you call it.


10 posted on 05/27/2010 1:35:17 PM PDT by Grunthor (Faster than the speed of smell.)
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My brother in law went through something similar with AA and his sponsor.

He ended his relationship with his sponsor. Continued sporadically with AA, and has remained sober and recovering.
It has now been 5 years ago he had to sever ties with his sponsor.

It could be, the stronger more recovered you are, and clear thinking, less dependant, you need less?


11 posted on 05/27/2010 1:36:47 PM PDT by Freddd (CNN is down to Three Hundred Thousand viewers. But they worked for it.)
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Forget the politics and concentrate on what the program is telling you. If they talk more politics than AA then find another group. Don’t worry about what others are doing keep the focus on yourself and what good people there are telling you. Get a REAL sponsor , if you cant find one go to another group. Read a step a day and when you’re done read them again.


12 posted on 05/27/2010 1:36:48 PM PDT by sonic109
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I would recommend an AA group that is “close” (figuratively speaking) to a conservative Church. This may be difficult for you to find in your area but keep looking. You are more likely to find conservatives among the Churches.


13 posted on 05/27/2010 1:37:22 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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A real addict can find a drink in the Sahara .
There are plenty of AA groups , try different one , don’t make excuses.


14 posted on 05/27/2010 1:38:29 PM PDT by sonic109
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but he doesn’t think too highly of AA
Kept him sober , didn’t it ?


15 posted on 05/27/2010 1:40:03 PM PDT by sonic109
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To: Doogle; All

Yes, I know that I have to. I need to get cleaned up and get over to our local Tea Party meeting, I’ll be back later to read more and respond. Thanks!


16 posted on 05/27/2010 1:40:25 PM PDT by zzeeman (Fighting to not be the amongst the last generation to enjoy Freedom & Liberty!)
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It will be difficult for you to find a group that will mirror your views. But, focus on the most important aspect which is finding the support to stay sober.

Politics won't matter if your personal life is destroyed.
Keep educating yourself, get books on Amazon and Ebay. Prepare to defend your views and then simply be passive.

Think of it as going among the heathen. Teach through example and reason, give no offense and don't lose your temper. When they get angry you don't.

Regardless of AA or a church group, work on yourself always. If you can help or educate someone else, that is good. But you carry the weight of your own actions and the first thing to do is to ensure your own actions are right.

Good luck and God Bless you.

17 posted on 05/27/2010 1:40:28 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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Thank God we live in a country where we choose where to live and how to live.

so far

18 posted on 05/27/2010 1:42:02 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)
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“but he doesn’t think too highly of AA
Kept him sober , didn’t it?”

Well no it didn’t.....it GOT him sober. He’s stayed that way w/o them.


19 posted on 05/27/2010 1:42:07 PM PDT by Grunthor (Faster than the speed of smell.)
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First of all, Good job!! Your posting had much deep thought and deep insight.

Next, not that I know much about AA itself, but the church I attend has a group called “Overcomers”...much like AA they give each person a mentor and they stick with them through thick and thin!!! Perhaps a program like this would be more helpful to you....a church based program as opposed to a “spiritually” based one.
20 posted on 05/27/2010 1:42:50 PM PDT by 4everontheRight ("America is good. And if America ever ceases to be good, America will cease to be great." Tocquevill)
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