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To: zzeeman

The program is based on spiritual principles whereas the traditional addict/alkie resembles your core liberal type, expects things done for them, someone owes them something, not self sufficient etc.

There are meetings and groups that you can go to where the work is on recovery. Big Book Step study is fairly no BS. Men only meetings are more hard core recovery as well. Avoid the meetings with women and especially college age and twenty-somethings.

Another thing to consider is that when a liberal speaks it is really just another symptom of the disease talking. Say a prayer for them and perhaps they will “get it” some day.

Jan 1989 was my last drink.


9 posted on 05/27/2010 1:32:16 PM PDT by misterrob (Have you tea bagged a liberal today?)
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To: misterrob
A big hat tip to you on your Jan 89 sobriety date!

I think your advice on the meeting type is key. Due to my laziness, I got into the habit of attending this particular meeting, almost to the point of exclusion of all others, since it is close by, meets 6 days a week, and worked well into my work and family schedule most days. Once I joined it as a Home Group and started taking on a lot of Service responsibilities, etc., I sort of ran out of time to make an effort to get to other meetings.

There is a Mens Meeting that I used to attend years ago, it isn't too far away, I need to make the effort to get back there. There is also a Step Meeting not too far away that I also used to attend in the past. Both of these meetings were more "blue collar" type meetings that I had always felt very comfortable at. But I got into a bad habit of not wanting to go to evening meetings (hey, it is an honest program, I'll admit it right here: they tended to interfere with watching sports and crime shows on TV!)

Looking back, I can see your point very clearly. My regular meeting was pretty much filled with those the kind of people that are more prone to being libs. Kinda like that old "don't go looking to buy a new car at the junkyard..."

And yes, liberalism is a disease (in some cases a symptom of the disease), a mental disorder. I know that I can't allow myself to fall into a "hatred" of them (although I will admit that I do struggle with that fairly often). The ones that a do have a very real issue with (like my former sponsor), are those that will not even begin to entertain the concept that MSNBC and the NYT isn't the be all and end all of news and information, especially if they claim to be so afraid of their stinking thinking that they are paralyzed into a state of perpetual ignorance.

THanks again for your advice!

[I need get to back to work, be back later to continue reading and replying further. Thank you all!]

56 posted on 05/28/2010 8:11:07 AM PDT by zzeeman (Fighting to not be the amongst the last generation to enjoy Freedom & Liberty!)
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