You: I’ve refuted this list to you before:...The Venus doesn’t mention NBC.
And doing a piss poor job of it.
Chief Justice Marshall cite's de Vattel by NAME and his definition of a Natural Born Citizen. Here is Venus.
"Vattel, who, though not very full to this point, is more explicit and more satisfactory on it than any other whose work has fallen into my hands, says, 'the citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or indigenes, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. Society not being able to subsist and to perpetuate itself but by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.' 'The inhabitants, as distinguished from citizens, are strangers who are permitted to settle and stay in the country. Bound by their residence to the society, they are subject to the laws of the state, while they reside there, and they are obliged to defendit, because it grants"
[Page 12 U.S. 253, 290]
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Rogers ranks up there with ender wiggens.....hmmm.
I did a computer search for natural born...I don’t have time or inclination to read each possible decision in detail.
So look at your quote:
Vattel is “not very full to this point” although he was “more explicit and more satisfactory on it than any other whose work has fallen into my hands” in 1814.
He does NOT define NBC, but “The natives, or indigenes” - interesting, isn’t it? Even in 1814, Vattel was being quoted by the Supreme Court and NOT with the term NBC.
And he treats Vattel, not as a legal dictionary, but a philosophy work as he tried to grapple with what a citizen was 25 years after the Constitution was signed. And he agrees that citizens born of citizens are...citizens.
He makes no attempt, nor does Vattel, to define the child born in the US to an American mother with a foreign father.
This is truly an amazing thread. The anti-birthers keep saying crap and then get it handed back to them again and again like a pie in the face.
And like a windup toy bumping into a wall, they do it over and over and over again.
(Apologies to anyone I left out. I just be part of the audience, trying to follow along.)