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To: Red Steel

I did a computer search for natural born...I don’t have time or inclination to read each possible decision in detail.

So look at your quote:

Vattel is “not very full to this point” although he was “more explicit and more satisfactory on it than any other whose work has fallen into my hands” in 1814.

He does NOT define NBC, but “The natives, or indigenes” - interesting, isn’t it? Even in 1814, Vattel was being quoted by the Supreme Court and NOT with the term NBC.

And he treats Vattel, not as a legal dictionary, but a philosophy work as he tried to grapple with what a citizen was 25 years after the Constitution was signed. And he agrees that citizens born of citizens are...citizens.

He makes no attempt, nor does Vattel, to define the child born in the US to an American mother with a foreign father.


566 posted on 05/17/2010 6:05:26 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Mr Rogers

you post opinions from who knows where and then you do not give a link/links to those so called quotes so that one can research those findings of yours. I must say you have learned well from politijab & Dr Conspiracy aka FOGGY


575 posted on 05/17/2010 6:27:38 PM PDT by patlin (1st SCOTUS of USA: "Human life, from its commencement to its close, is protected by the common law.")
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To: Mr Rogers
And he treats Vattel, not as a legal dictionary, but a philosophy work as he tried to grapple with what a citizen was 25 years after the Constitution was signed. And he agrees that citizens born of citizens are...citizens.

Chief Justice Marshall doesn't have to define natural born citizenship since de Vattel has done that for him. It's there in Venus, and you spouting it is only as a 'philosophical viewpoint' is hogwash - a lame attempt to explain it away.

a citizen was 25 years after the Constitution was signed.

A non sequitur and irrelevant.

And he agrees that citizens born of citizens are...citizens.

Marshall apparently agreed with de Vattel on his definition of who constitutes a citizen besides naturalization or denizens. His opinion in Venus is littered with de Vattel cites.

597 posted on 05/17/2010 7:54:13 PM PDT by Red Steel
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