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Discoveries might reveal origins of Southeastern N.C.'s first inhabitants
Star News Online ^ | 09 May 2010 | Cece Nunn

Posted on 05/10/2010 4:19:52 AM PDT by Palter

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1 posted on 05/10/2010 4:19:53 AM PDT by Palter
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To: SunkenCiv

‘supporting a theory that Paleo-Indians might have come to the continent via a coastal route rather than by land’

Coast ping.


2 posted on 05/10/2010 4:20:50 AM PDT by Palter (Kilroy was here.)
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I'm confused. Chert is found in Arkansas. Chert is used to make tools. Fine. Now they've found an outcropping of Chert dozens of feet below the surface of the ocean, off the coast of North Carolina --

And this tells us how people came to North Carolina?

What am I missing?

3 posted on 05/10/2010 4:36:40 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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“What else floats on water?”


4 posted on 05/10/2010 5:27:50 AM PDT by D Rider
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Wasn’t Mayberry in NC?
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5 posted on 05/10/2010 6:14:56 AM PDT by barb-tex (REMEMBER NOVEMBER!!! Slim as it may be, it is our last hope.)
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Paleo-Indians butchering a bison at the end of the Ice Age. Pembina State Museum exhibit


6 posted on 05/10/2010 8:11:48 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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7 posted on 05/10/2010 3:25:43 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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So, what do you like, East or West Carolina style barbecue sauce on your meat?
8 posted on 05/10/2010 3:32:22 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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A duck!


9 posted on 05/10/2010 3:34:41 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 473 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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These guys might be about to make fools of themselves. Chert was used for ballast. It was also used to pave roads. For all they know, it could have washed out to sea in a nor’easter back during the depression, or was dumped by a ship during the Civil War.


10 posted on 05/10/2010 3:41:31 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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11 posted on 05/10/2010 3:44:35 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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Mmmm, betcha that made for some tasty BBQ Mastodon!
12 posted on 05/10/2010 3:53:28 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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LOL! Your question shows an awareness of NC cue but falls short.


13 posted on 05/10/2010 5:07:30 PM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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Eastern. And you say Eastern or Western, not East or West. :]


14 posted on 05/10/2010 5:21:01 PM PDT by morkfork (Candygram for Mongo)
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Well, I know one thing about Carolina barbecue. When I ate it there it was seriously good eats.
15 posted on 05/10/2010 5:26:08 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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"So, what do you like, East or West Carolina style barbecue sauce on your meat? "

The first BBQ came to the US from Haiti via North Carolina. Barbeque is actually a Carib Indian word for roasted human arm.

And now, you know the rest of the story.

16 posted on 05/10/2010 6:51:09 PM PDT by blam
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"These guys might be about to make fools of themselves. Chert was used for ballast. It was also used to pave roads. For all they know, it could have washed out to sea in a nor’easter back during the depression, or was dumped by a ship during the Civil War."

Or, it was dropped overboard by Indians say, 600 years ago while they were out fishing, geeze.

17 posted on 05/10/2010 6:53:15 PM PDT by blam
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Well, now, I beg to differ.

The pit cooking method was taught to the very earliest English colonists, there are descriptions of pit cooking methods taught by the Croatan and the Powhatan. The sauce is a survival of Elizabethan “catsup” which was a vinegary sauce with herbs and spices. It’s the first authentically American food, being a fusion of English and native. It really should be our Thanksgiving dinner, imho. Far more authentic than that sanitized and romanticized tale of our putative Pilgrim Fathers, those Johnny-Come-Lately communards, lol.

I’ve been a history buff with a nack for odd or forgotten history for years, and one of those odd bits is the origin of southeastern pit-cooked barbecue. I’ve never in my life heard this NC-by-way-of-Haiti cannibal cuisine tale before in my life, and I’ve actually researched it for years.

If you’re pulling our legs, you’re doing a pretty good job of it. If you’re not, please source, starting with the etymology of “barbeque” from Haitian Creole. Bar-beek, like Martinique? I’m just baffled.

The Carribean connection to NC was Barbados and Cuba, not Hispaniola. Pit cooking was widespread before Haitians ever conjured their voodoo demon and slaughtered their overlords in their sleep back in the late 1700’s.

For once, I don’t believe you, lol. That’s a rarity on FR, your threads and replies are usually very enjoyable and enformative.


18 posted on 05/10/2010 7:14:45 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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Knack. I’ll learn to push that little spellcheck button before posting one of these years.


19 posted on 05/10/2010 7:16:41 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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"For once, I don’t believe you, lol. That’s a rarity on FR, your threads and replies are usually very enjoyable and enformative."

That's fine. I'm not insulted. I read so much that I can't remember where I read that. If I had to guess, it would have been something that Marvin Harris(bless his soul) wrote. Below is something I found on Wikipedia.

Etymology

The origins of both the activity of barbecue cooking and the word itself are somewhat obscure. Most etymologists believe that barbecue derives ultimately from the word barabicu found in the language of both the Timucua of Florida and the Taíno people of the Caribbean. The word translates as "sacred fire pit."[2] The word describes a grill for cooking meat, consisting of a wooden platform resting on sticks.

Traditional barbacoa involves digging a hole in the ground and placing some meat (usually a whole goat) with a pot underneath it, so that the juices can make a hearty broth. It is then covered with maguey leaves and coal and set alight. The cooking process takes a few hours.

There is ample evidence that both the word and cooking technique migrated out of the Caribbean and into other languages and cultures, with the word (barbacoa) moving from Caribbean dialects into Spanish, then French and English. The Oxford English Dictionary cites the first recorded use of the word in the English language in 1697 by the British buccaneer William Dampier.[3]

While the standard modern English spelling of the word is barbecue, local variations like barbeque and truncations such as bar-b-q or bbq may also be found.[4] In the southeastern United States, the word barbecue is used predominantly as a noun referring to roast pork, while in the southwestern states, cuts of beef are often cooked.

The word barbecue has attracted several inaccurate origins from folk etymology. An often-repeated claim is that the word is derived from the French language. The story goes that French visitors to the Caribbean saw a pig being cooked whole and described the method as barbe à queue, meaning "from beard to tail". The French word for barbecue is also barbecue, and the "beard to tail" explanation is regarded as false by most language experts. The only merit is that it relies on the similar sound of the words, a feature common in folk-etymology explanations.[5] Another claim states that the word BBQ came from the time when roadhouses and beer joints with pool tables advertised "Bar, Beer and Cues". According to this tale, the phrase was shortened over time to BBCue, then BBQ.[6]

The related term buccaneer is derived from the Arawak word buccan, a wooden frame for smoking meat, hence the French word boucane and the name boucanier for hunters who used such frames to smoke meat from feral cattle and pigs on Hispaniola (now Haiti and the Dominican Republic).[7] English colonists anglicised the word boucanier to buccaneer.

20 posted on 05/10/2010 10:08:39 PM PDT by blam
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