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To: BroJoeK

Show me where the article, as it exists now, says that the Germans annexed their former lands. This? “except for Alsace-Lorraine, a disputed territory which was placed under German administration (though not formally annexed).” Oops, no, that says the exact OPPOSITE of what your map does. (You can jump in and do a quick edit on the text, but that won’t make the annexation claim any more factual.)

The map is garbage, whatever language it is in.

And footnotes dealing with other aspects of the occupation are totally irrelevant. Point me to sources showing annexation.


18 posted on 05/07/2010 10:53:02 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: PAR35
PAR35: "And footnotes dealing with other aspects of the occupation are totally irrelevant. Point me to sources showing annexation."

Response:
From the Vichy France article, Overview:

From "Vichy's racial policies and collaboration"

And from this History of Alsace-Loraine:

From same Alsace-Lorraine article: World War II:

The tong-term historical context here is that Alsace-Lorraine was annexed, un-annexed, re-annexed and re-un-annexed -- several times over the centuries.
The most recent annexation was by Germany in 1940, though some sources, instead of using the word "annexed," merely say it was "administered from Berlin."

Is there a practical distinction to be made between "annexed" and "administered from Berlin"?

Among the ways we can see that Nazis treated Alsace-Lorraine as their own territory include:

Finally, you seem to be highly sensitive to this particular word "annexed," and to any legalistic distinctions regarding it.

Can you explain why?

19 posted on 05/08/2010 2:44:04 PM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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