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‘Cadillac of steam’ to ride the rails again
LA Times ^ | April 30, 2010 | Scott Gold

Posted on 04/30/2010 7:14:14 AM PDT by Willie Green

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To: Willie Green
This engine doesn't burn coal. It burns diesel fuel (at a rate about 30 times that of a modern engine of equivalent horsepower).

It's neat nontheless.

21 posted on 04/30/2010 8:02:13 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Willie Green

22 posted on 04/30/2010 8:03:47 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie ("young people, African-Americans, Latinos and women" - 0. Ageist, Racist, Sexist.)
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To: Willie Green

This is cool there is a man right down the street from me who has a Caboose on tracks in his front yard one of the original ones from way way back it’s sharp .


23 posted on 04/30/2010 8:04:24 AM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (Any man may make a mistake ; none but a fool will persist in it . { Latin proverb })
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To: Amos the Prophet

It burns oil. Steam trains were not very efficient burning coal. They’re a little more efficient burning oil.


24 posted on 04/30/2010 8:14:03 AM PDT by outpostinmass2
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To: Willie Green

3751 in 1913

25 posted on 04/30/2010 8:20:07 AM PDT by frithguild (I gave to Joe Wilson the day after, to Scott Brown seven days before and next to JD Hayworth.)
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To: Betis70
I’ve also ridden the one from Chama NM to Silverton CO and that was a treat.

You can go from Chama to Osier, and from Durango to Silverton, but you haven't been able to go the whole way in a while. The connecting track between the two was ripped up long ago.

26 posted on 04/30/2010 8:20:29 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Little Pig

You are correct. The BigBoys were designed in the 30’s for Union Pacific. They were designed as 4-8-8-4’s as opposed to the Santa Fe 3751 which is a 4-8-4. The BigBoys had two sets of 8 driving wheels. They were designed to pull a 3600 ton train across a 1.14% grade. Top speed was around 80mph.

My Grandfather worked for Southern Pacific for nearly 25 years. He was an engineer on the Houston to El Paso route. He ran mostly freight as opposed to the passenger Sunset limited.

Lots of great stories he could tell. Thankfully I managed to get most of them on tape before he passed away. His name was Rabbit because he liked to run fast. He started out as a brakeman but eventually worked his way up to engineer. I still have several of his old log books and watches. There is a lot of history there.

Its good to see the Santa Fe 3751 back up and running.


27 posted on 04/30/2010 8:36:51 AM PDT by Syntyr (Mace, Kirk, Thomson, Griffin, Scusa, Martin, Gallegos, Hart - Remember the fallen of Kamdesh)
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To: antiRepublicrat

Yeah I remembered that after my original post, see post #12.


28 posted on 04/30/2010 8:40:04 AM PDT by Betis70 (Go Bruins!)
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To: Mr. Lucky
This engine doesn't burn coal. It burns diesel fuel (at a rate about 30 times that of a modern engine of equivalent horsepower).

A diesel-steamer instead of a coal-steamer or a diesel-electric???

LOL! Thanks for reminding me that there's more than one way to skin a cat!

I agree... it IS a cool machine!!!

29 posted on 04/30/2010 8:45:09 AM PDT by Willie Green ("You can observe a lot just by watching.")
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To: Willie Green

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DAPR0ffTk4


30 posted on 04/30/2010 8:49:36 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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To: Betis70

I just figured you rode it before they disconnected the lines and didn’t know about it. I don’t know how long ago they were disconnected, just that they were.


31 posted on 04/30/2010 8:54:39 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: bmwcyle

Try this one:

http://www.upsteam.com/UP3985History.html#UP3985History


32 posted on 04/30/2010 8:54:48 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: wiggen
It will pull 10 cars.

I was talking to an Amtrak conductor one day and he said that the modern diesel-electric engines will easily pull 8 or more cars. The problem, he said, was that the generators are only designed to power 4 cars. They are usually pulling 6 cars and it taxes the generators.

33 posted on 04/30/2010 8:57:41 AM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Governement should be afraid of the people)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker
Another example of government engineering being unrelated to real world demands.

When the bad old private railroads ran passenger trains, each car was equipped with a wheel generator which charged a bank of 32 volt storage batteries; the movement of the train kept the batteries charged. While the generator added drag to the axle, it didn't require that the locomotive be equipped with an auxiliary generator.

34 posted on 04/30/2010 9:08:55 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: cavador

Thanks for posting the photo of some real “heavy metal”.


35 posted on 04/30/2010 9:18:15 AM PDT by VOA
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To: wiggen
I paid $75 several years ago to ride on a train pulled by a steam locomotive. And the locomotive on that train was no where nearly as impressive as this one! If they will bring it to Tampa I'd happily pay for a ride, more if I could take pictures in the cab.

My hat is off to those who have spearheaded this project. I also have a great love for those who cars, boats and airplanes. It's a very expensive process and takes people with a particular brand of stick-to-it determination. I would love to do it but I am WAY to impatient to even be near the project. I am much more of a function person than a form person. I am more concerned that it works than how it looks. That's fine for me, but for an old train or airplane it's not a good personality!

36 posted on 04/30/2010 9:58:11 AM PDT by jwparkerjr
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To: Syntyr

Very cool. One of my great uncles was an engineer on the Wabash line. His “claim to fame” was that one day during WWII, he was running a troop train. He was backing the train into St. Louis Union Station, and his brakeman, who was drunk, forgot to hang the brake lantern out to stop the train, so my great uncle ended up backing the train right into the station. The cars at the end apparently went up onto the platform, and into the Station building itself. Needless to say, as the engineer and therefore responsible for the rest of the crew on his train, he lost his job.


37 posted on 04/30/2010 10:29:18 AM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: Little Pig
My bad.Here is a pic of a BigBoy in action.Note the Dual Drivers(4-8-8-4)

They were used to haul freight not passengers.
38 posted on 05/01/2010 1:33:23 AM PDT by cavador (Wash your Hands-Cover that sneeze!It helps stop the H1N1 Virus)
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To: cavador
Correct.

I'm preferential to the Allegheny's myself. They burned higher-grade coal, so they made a little more power than the Bigboys, which burned the lower-grade Wyoming coal.


39 posted on 05/01/2010 11:34:53 AM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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