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I found her answer about abortion to be appalling but, I'm so tired of answer her right now, I think I'd rather have a root canal...lol
1 posted on 04/24/2010 4:27:14 PM PDT by MsLady
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“So I believe gov. health care can work—I’ve seen it turn around in the VA—”

As a long time employee of the VA I can assure you that the VA does NOT work.

This site documents years of VA malfeasance.... Doctors and VA officials on the take, the VA diagnosing a man with a menstrual disorder, unsanitary conditions.... you name it.

http://www.vawatchdog.org/

Send this out to your vet friends


44 posted on 04/24/2010 5:18:03 PM PDT by Keith Brown (Among the other evils being unarmed brings you, it causes you to be despised Machiavelli.)
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This little problem can be easily solved if you have her get a copy of the Health Care bill and have her read it.

My brother runs the IT section of a Michigan hospital and, with his staff, tried to read it. He said it's totally unreadable and his staff concurred.
48 posted on 04/24/2010 5:22:36 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress!)
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I'd write back and say:

"You know what darlin, I don't care to argue this, as a matter of fact I don't care much at all. You see, I'm older than you are, I shall be long gone before the bill comes due on all this, unfortuantely, you will still be here to pay the bill. It will be you and your children and your children's children who will suffer the most. I was just trying to get you to help stop this thing before your future was destroyed. But, since you obviously don't care, then why should I fret.

Did you see that dress Aunt Agnus wore last month. Talk about the wrong color for her complexion!"

Then I would drop the conversation and any time she wants to talk politics, just smile and say you have nothing more to offer her.

52 posted on 04/24/2010 5:29:08 PM PDT by McGavin999 (Have you donated to Free Republic yet? If not you are a Freeploader)
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Good gravy, where to start? First of all you should teach her what “anecdotal” means in reference to her friend Mike and his VA experience. My mother worked at the VA for 20+ years and believe me, its as f****ed up as a system can get.

Secondly, I would give her some of the facts on military spending (in 2010, military spending will be approx $650 billion or 19% of the total federal budget, the vast majority of the other 81% being liberal redistribution programs).

As for the Iraq war itself: we are almost done and we’ll never have to pay for it again, nor will we have to pay for perpetual monitoring of no-fly zones or defenses for Kuwait and Saudi against Saddam or his sons. (One could argue that we may have saved money and lives by preventing a wider Middle East war by taking out Saddam). Maybe she didn’t think WW2 was a good investment either?

On the flip side, we are likely stuck with throwing money at liberal pyramid schemes Social Security, Medicare, and Obamacare forever or until the country collapses.


54 posted on 04/24/2010 5:30:13 PM PDT by gore_sux (Al Franken - Preferred by Minnesota Educated Somali Pirates and Suicide Bombers Everywhere)
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Was told catarct in my left eye is not bad enough to warrant removal...”You have to be nearly blind before they’ll put you on the list” by a VA optometrist
former Hd 2nd 504 Abn RCT 82nd ABN


56 posted on 04/24/2010 5:38:43 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Corps vs Corpse? Why naturally, Obama was talking about the White House Press Corpse.!)
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From antimullah:

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John G. Is 63 years old and owns a small business. He’s a life-long Republican and sees his dream of retiring next year has all but evaporated. With the stock market crashing and new taxes coming his way, John assumes now that he will work to his dying day.

John has a granddaughter.. Ashley is a recent college grad. She drives a flashy hybrid car, wears all the latest fashions, and loves to go out to nightclubs and restaurants. Ashley campaigned hard for Barack Obama. After the election she made sure her grandfather (and all other Republican family members) received a big I told-you-so earful on how the world is going to be a much better place now that her party is taking over.

Having lost both roommates, Ashley recently ran short of cash and cannot pay the rent (again) on her 3 bedroom townhouse.. Like she has done many times in the past, she e-mailed her grandfather asking for some financial help.

Here is his reply:

Sweetheart, I received your request for assistance.

Ashley, you know I love you dearly and I ‘m sympathetic to your financial plight. Unfortunately, times have changed. With the election of President Obama, your grandmother and I have had to set forth a bold new economic plan of our own...”The Ashley Economic Empowerment Plan.” Let me explain.

Your grandmother and I are life-long, wage-earning tax payers. We have lived a comfortable life, as you know, but we have never had the fancier things like European vacations, luxury cars, etc.. We have worked hard and were looking forward to retiring soon. But the plan has changed. Your president is raising our personal and business taxes significantly. He says it is so he can give our hard earned money to other people. Do you know what this means, Ashley? It means less for us, and we must cut back on many business and personal expenses.

You know the wonderful receptionist who worked in my office for more than 23 years? The one who always gave you candy when you came over to visit? I had to let her go last week. I can’t afford to pay her salary and all of the government mandated taxes that go with having employees. Your grandmother will now work 4 days a week to answer phones, take orders and handle the books. We will be closed on Fridays and will lose even more income to the Wal-Mart.

I’m also very sorry to report that your cousin Frank will no longer be working summers in the warehouse. I called him at school this morning.. He already knows about it and he’s upset because he will have to give up skydiving and his yearly trip to Greenland to survey the polar bears.

That’s just the business side of things. Some personal economic effects of Obama’s new taxation policies include none other than you You know very well that over the years your grandmother and I have given you thousands of dollars in cash, tuition assistance, food, housing, clothing, gifts, etc.., etc. But by your vote, you have chosen to help others — not at your expense — but at our expense.

If you need money now sweetheart, I recommend you call 202-456-1111. That is the direct phone number for the White House.. You can also contact the White House here: http://www.whitehouse.gov/CONTACT/ .

You yourself told me how foolish it is to vote Republican. You said Mr Obama is going to be the People’s President, and is going to help every American live a better life. Based on everything you’ve told me, along with all the promises we heard during the campaign, I’m sure Mr. Obama will be happy to transfer some stimulus money into your bank account. Have him call me for the account number which I memorized years ago..

Perhaps you can now understand what I’ve been saying all my life: those who vote for a president should consider the impact on the nation as a whole, and not be just concerned with what they can get for themselves. What Obama supporters don’t seem to realize is all of the money he is redistributing to illegal aliens and non-taxpaying Americans (the so-called “less fortunate”) comes from tax-paying families.

Remember how you told me, “Only the richest of the rich will be affected”? Well guess what, honey? Because we own a business, your grandmother and I are now considered to be the richest of the rich. On paper, it might look that way, but in the real world, we are far from it.

As you said while campaigning for Obama, some people will have to carry more of the burden so all of America can prosper.. You understand what that means, right? It means that raising taxes on productive people results in them having less money; less money for everything, including granddaughters.

I’m sorry, Ashley, but the well has run dry.. The free lunches are over.. I have no money to give you now. So, congratulations on your choice for “change.” For future reference, I encourage you to try and add up the total value of the gifts and cash you have received from us, just since you went off to college, and compare it to what you expect to get from Mr. Obama over the next 4 (or 8) years. I have not kept track of it, Ashley. It has all truly been the gift of our hearts.

Remember, we love you dearly....but from now on you’ll need to call the number mentioned above. Your “Savior” has the money we would have given to you. Just try and get it from him.

Good luck, sweetheart.
Love, Grandpa


62 posted on 04/24/2010 5:51:26 PM PDT by jackv (The darkness hates the light!)
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Bless her...and let it go.


64 posted on 04/24/2010 5:56:25 PM PDT by lonestar (Better Obama picks his nose than our pockets!)
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I have four grown children and five grandchildren. My kids are Conservatives and my grandchildren go to Catholic schools where they sing patriotic songs and cover their hearts with their hands every morning when they say the Pledge. I stress to them that which matters:
1.Core values and principles.
2.Having a moral code by which to live your life, reading and learning about the Constitution and the founding fathers.
3.Appreciating American’s exceptionalism and greatness.
We cannot leave this kind of teaching to others. We have to do it ourselves in our families and begin at an early age.
Out public elementary and high schools, Universities..are mostly infested with Lib educators who will try to destroy our young people’s minds with leftist garbage.
We cannot keep our children and grandchildren insulated from these forces but we can counter the insurgents...and keep our children close. We are role models for them in how we live our lives.
Your niece(who I agree is a goner) is typical of alot of up and coming “free thinkers’ that I know, mostly children of my friends who have been left to “make their own decisions” about the country and politics.
“I want them to hear both sides”..Hurl alert!
I have(had?)a friend whose son travels around the world apologizing for American’s “rich” people and trying to raise monies for an organization called Globe Med. He wants to start wearing robes!
I suggested that he stop dissing the country which gave him everything, go get a real job, and never again dare to ask me for money for his stupid, anti American causes. Then I told him that in fact, HE was a fraud.
His mother hasn’t called me in months. Oh well...


69 posted on 04/24/2010 6:26:14 PM PDT by Mountain Mary (Jack Bauer Motto: " I don't want revenge. I just want justice")
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Are we really more safer?

'Nuff said.

71 posted on 04/24/2010 6:36:18 PM PDT by gundog (Outrage is anger taken by surprise. Nothing these people do surprises me anymore.)
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Judging from here email, you must be a monkey’s uncle. Since it is not legal to leave money to animals (Yes, you can leave money in a trust for the care of an animal, but that is not money left to an animal), I would suggest you make certain she is not mentioned in your will except leaving money to a trust for her care.


72 posted on 04/24/2010 6:41:51 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (Obama makes me miss Jimmah Cahtah!)
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Having had a root canal, it's definitely preferable to this discussion with your niece. I feel for you. I have liberal in-laws coming to visit in a few weeks.

In case your niece cares, having the option for government funded abortions will most certainly cause women (not to mention men -- obviously one of her favorite phrases) less careful regarding pregnancy. A better analogy than the ones she provided would be for women who eat whatever they want and then go vomit it out later. It's not like bulimia is common among young women, right?

75 posted on 04/24/2010 6:53:35 PM PDT by FourPeas (God Bless America)
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Why would you put yourself through all that?

Sounds to me that if she had one more brain cell, it would die of loneliness. I don't have that problem because I refuse to argue with relatives, or anyone that agrees with fools.

84 posted on 04/24/2010 8:20:28 PM PDT by Randy Larsen ( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!(FR #1690))
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/04/19/veterans-health-claims-menstrual-disorder/


88 posted on 04/25/2010 5:38:09 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (Tant que je vive)
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