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To: Bob J

“And your picture does say a 1,000 words, but Bob, unfortunately they’re all about YOU and political whores like you and the results and likely outcome of your slavish, cultish RINOism!! “

It says it all.


175 posted on 04/22/2010 9:17:18 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Global Warming expert and Scientist Sigourney Weaver testifying Congress..RB starring in Aliens IV)
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To: rbmillerjr

Why do you keep posting Jim’s words, can’t speak for yourself? Is your argument so weak that you have to resort to threats and intimidation, from someone else’s keyboard no less?

Stand up on your own 2 feet and quit using Jim as a fig leaf for your own inability to frame Palin as a candidate worthy of my, or anyone elses, vote.


176 posted on 04/22/2010 9:24:36 AM PDT by Bob J
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To: rbmillerjr
BTW - I've said it before, it is impossible for people to have a legitimate discussion on FR about Palin and her worthiness as a presidential candidate for these reasons;

1. Her supporters spin, manipulate and outright fabricate her history. When confronted with facts they change the subject or call people names. They will NEVER knowingly acknowledge the warts in her record and the inconsistency in things she says and does.

2. Some of her detractors are third party, single issue voters or “tear it all down so we can sit and groove on the rubble” types who are more interested in clouding the situation than coming to conclusions or gaining insight.

3. Jim has made it clear he is a big Palin supporter and that is the direction he wants the website to go. The resulting effect is to suppress discussion and mute opinions under the threat of retaliation. Unfortunately, Palin supporters have picked up on this and use it every chance they get to intimidate their opponents into silence.

Palin supporters want to frame this discussion as hatred for Palin and an attack on conservatism which of course it isn't. It is a discussion of Palin’s suitability as President. Nobody is questioning the good she can do for the movement as a spokesperson or her ability to “rally the troops” which IMO is self evident. But one can support and praise the overall work she does but still criticize specific actions like campaigning for McCain or whether or not she is the best person for or ready to sit in the oval office at this point in time.

I've also said it before that if Palin supporters want a real, adult discussion about Palin and her record, band together and ask Jim to hold off on the ban button. I would like to debate her merits and history because I have checked into it and while she has done some good things many of the bullet points her supporters tout are at best ambiguous and at worst misdirection and manipulation.

If people believe she is the answer to our problems then let's put it all out on the table so like adults we can decide for ourselves rather than be bullied into a choice based on rhetoric, bumper sticker slogans and half truths.

184 posted on 04/22/2010 9:47:15 AM PDT by Bob J
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