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To: rbmillerjr
BTW - I've said it before, it is impossible for people to have a legitimate discussion on FR about Palin and her worthiness as a presidential candidate for these reasons;

1. Her supporters spin, manipulate and outright fabricate her history. When confronted with facts they change the subject or call people names. They will NEVER knowingly acknowledge the warts in her record and the inconsistency in things she says and does.

2. Some of her detractors are third party, single issue voters or “tear it all down so we can sit and groove on the rubble” types who are more interested in clouding the situation than coming to conclusions or gaining insight.

3. Jim has made it clear he is a big Palin supporter and that is the direction he wants the website to go. The resulting effect is to suppress discussion and mute opinions under the threat of retaliation. Unfortunately, Palin supporters have picked up on this and use it every chance they get to intimidate their opponents into silence.

Palin supporters want to frame this discussion as hatred for Palin and an attack on conservatism which of course it isn't. It is a discussion of Palin’s suitability as President. Nobody is questioning the good she can do for the movement as a spokesperson or her ability to “rally the troops” which IMO is self evident. But one can support and praise the overall work she does but still criticize specific actions like campaigning for McCain or whether or not she is the best person for or ready to sit in the oval office at this point in time.

I've also said it before that if Palin supporters want a real, adult discussion about Palin and her record, band together and ask Jim to hold off on the ban button. I would like to debate her merits and history because I have checked into it and while she has done some good things many of the bullet points her supporters tout are at best ambiguous and at worst misdirection and manipulation.

If people believe she is the answer to our problems then let's put it all out on the table so like adults we can decide for ourselves rather than be bullied into a choice based on rhetoric, bumper sticker slogans and half truths.

184 posted on 04/22/2010 9:47:15 AM PDT by Bob J
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To: Bob J

Let me reduce this to a simple fact. She was so grossly attacked and diminished in 2008. I think she deserves another chance. And she will get that chance.

I am just tired of logging onto Free Republic. This site is like a home to me. And seeing the same anti Palin propaganda I would see on the Huffington Post from folks like you.


196 posted on 04/22/2010 10:25:08 AM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative (God save America)
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To: Bob J

So, you say people won’t debate. Which is just a lie btw, Palin supporters have given rationale for Palin’s actions a multitude of times.

So, I challenge you to give me a more credible and conservative candidate so we can debate. The sticking factor was likely that you know you can’t use Romney, since he is a RINO.

Nonetheless, no candidate that is credible and conservative is given by you.

Fail.


253 posted on 04/22/2010 11:25:49 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Global Warming expert and Scientist Sigourney Weaver testifying Congress..RB starring in Aliens IV)
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