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You have a point, but let's deal with reality--

The reality is this is blatantly unconstitutional and the conservatives who support it are hypocrites for doing so. The accuse the RATS for cherry picking what amendments they like and don't like, yet support this, its hypocrisy at its finest.

Isn't the police's job to make sure that, in a part of the country where there is massive illegal immigration, to use common sense to try to make it less appetizing for illegal actions to occur there?

Its the job of the police, local law enforcement to investigate local crimes and respond to complaints of local crimes. Not to become a de facto arm of the federal government. The illegal immigration problem is a failing of federal law enforcement. If the federal law enforcement apparatus cannot handle it, then what makes us think that turning local LE lose on the problem will fare any better?

“Its the job of the police, local law enforcement to investigate local crimes and respond to complaints of local crimes. Not to become a de facto arm of the federal government. The illegal immigration problem is a failing of federal law enforcement. If the federal law enforcement apparatus cannot handle it, then what makes us think that turning local LE lose on the problem will fare any better?”

Sheriff Arpaio seems to be doing a pretty good job. This just gives his team another tool in their arsenal.

I would argue that such as law is a reassertion of state sovereignty. It would be in the state's interest to assure itself of the legality and citizenship status of its residents. The Federal responsibility starts at the international border but ends inside the state. The Federal government is certainly failing in its “border enforcement” responsibility but there is no need for the state to fail to live up to its responsibility as long as it has the will to!

The reality is this is blatantly unconstitutional and the conservatives who support it are hypocrites for doing so

Nonsense.

“The accuse the RATS for cherry picking what amendments they like and don't like, yet support this, its hypocrisy at its finest. “

So go fight with the Democrats for passing an unconstitutional 0bamcare law then. The Democrats can't claim 0bamcare is constitutional, while at the same time claiming that that Arizona's illegal alien laws are unconstitutional. You can't have it both ways.
The real hypocrites here are the Democratic Party vermin.

” Not to become a de facto arm of the federal government. The illegal immigration problem is a failing of federal law enforcement.”

Local law enforecement have been handing over arrested illegal aliens to ICE for DECADES. There is nothing new here.

Gee, that's the RATS favorite label for something they don't like.

Has this been deemed unconstitutional?

Its the job of the police, local law enforcement to investigate local crimes and respond to complaints of local crimes. Not to become a de facto arm of the federal government.

So only Federal/FBI forces should have responded on 9/11, as this was not a local crime but an interstate crime?

The illegal immigration problem is a failing of federal law enforcement. If the federal law enforcement apparatus cannot handle it, then what makes us think that turning local LE lose on the problem will fare any better?

Yes, why would the local law enforcement--who know the neighborhoods, who know the local sweatshops that employ illegal labor, who are on the street where crime takes place--why would one think they'd fare any better? Bring in the federal government!

So WHO is a hypocritical "conservative" calling for the federal government to take over from the local law enforcement, again?

If the federal law enforcement apparatus cannot handle it, then what makes us think that turning local LE lose on the problem will fare any better?

Are you living in LaLa land? Federal law enforcement, by intent or otherwise, does not effectively enforce the immigration laws. That is quite obvious is it not?

And I do believe local law enforcement readily and willingly participates in enforcement of federal crimes does it not? I mean if you rob a federally insured bank can you not be apprehended by a local sheriff?

There are RICO laws where it is a federal crime to harbor or protect illegals, are there not?

The hypocrisy is in the federal government not enforcing the very protections it has promised the taxpaying citizen.

The Arizona initiative is to address that hypocrisy, heavy handed or otherwise; and you can be sure that local law enforcement properly authorized and properly controlled will help correct that federal impotence quite effectively.

You do agree that this nation is being invaded and this is a serious situation, no?

“The reality is this is blatantly unconstitutional ...”

NONSENSE. Is it ‘racial profiling’ or otherwise objectionable for the police to stop and question every ‘middle aged bald white male driving a Lincoln Navigator’ if that is the description of the guy that just robbed a liquor store ? Of course not. Well, living here illegally is a crime. A CRIME has been committed. Of COURSE police should be looking for perpetrators and using the best description available. There is no difference between the illegal immigrant — who has been reported as being ‘Mexican and Spanish speaking’ — and the robber who was reported as being white, male, and balding.

You say you ‘understand illegal immigrants are a problem’ but you don’t seem to realize that their simple presence is illegal. They don’t need to have committed ADDITIONAL crimes like rape, murder, or robbery. They are ALREADY criminals. The Federal law requires any visitor to this country to enter by a legal point of entry and carry their passport and visa with them AT ALL TIMES while within the country. Failing to do that is a crime and warrants deportation. Giving the appearance of being a foreigner has ALWAYS been enough justification for law enforcement to question you and require you to show your visa and passport. Arizona is passing their own ‘trespassing’ law only because the libs in Washington DC refuse to enforce the Federal immigration laws.

People like you forget that each State is its own Republic, with its own borders and the right to control those borders guaranteed by the 10th Amendment. Even in California, driving into the state from Nevada, Arizona, and Oregon, you will be stopped and asked questions. It is to stop people from bringing in fruit that might be infested with fruit flies and other pests. States have the right to control their own borders to protect against dangers to their economies and health. Illegal immigrants pose a danger to both health and economy.

What you call ‘racism’, I call ‘being minimally observant’.

“Its the job of the police, local law enforcement to investigate local crimes and respond to complaints of local crimes. Not to become a de facto arm of the federal government.”

So Arizona has now made it a LOCAL CRIME to trespass in their State. By your logic, it is now perfectly fine for it to be the local police’s job to round up these trespassers.

Glad to see you agree and applaud Arizona’s solution.