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To: Windflier

“After nearly two years of discussing this issue and turning over every conceivable argument and fact, the consensus conclusion is that the Framers intended that all American presidents should be born to the soil and the blood of this country.”

Consensus among who? Internet lawyers? Self-proclaimed patriots?

That doesn’t cut it. Particularly when those self-proclaimed patriots feel free to attack anyone who comes to a different conclusion as Obama employees, or folks who hate the Constitution!

I spent 25 years in the military. The two kids I’ve got old enough to go into the military did so - daughter in the Marines, son in the Army. Both did tours in Iraq. And I’ve had birthers on this forum tell me that since I disagree with their interpretation of NBC, they pity my kids for having a traitor father.

If birthers - and I am NOT saying you behaved that way - act like that, they need hard evidence. They need an irrefutable case, not a ‘maybe this was meant’ case.

And they do not have it. Maybe Vittal - in the French - was accurate. Maybe Blackstone was. The Congress and Courts have said the latter is. But it is NOT a clear, open/shut case. And that won’t support overturning Obama’s election, nor will it support the rabid attacks made on this forum by [other] birthers.


419 posted on 04/20/2010 9:49:54 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Mr Rogers

I leave you to your views.


422 posted on 04/20/2010 9:54:52 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Mr Rogers; Windflier

Thank you for your service, Mr. R., but your posts reflect a very poor understanding of the laws of evidence and rules of discovery.

Thanks for playing, we’ll send you home with a version of the home game.


460 posted on 04/21/2010 2:46:40 AM PDT by Canedawg (I'm not digging this tyranny thing.)
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