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Flowers at center of suburban dispute [homeowners association threatened legal action]
upi ^ | April 18

Posted on 04/19/2010 11:40:34 AM PDT by JoeProBono

PLANO, Texas, -- A Texas couple says they've downsized their garden display of spring bluebonnets, a state tradition, after their homeowners association threatened legal action.

Eddie and Melissa Smith's bluebonnet bonanza began five years ago with three plants from a local Plano, Texas, home-improvement store, The Dallas Morning News reported Sunday.

Explosive growth followed, and the bluebonnets spread over the Smith's entire lawn and jumped the sidewalk to curve around their corner lot, the newspaper said.

"We didn't add more seeds, didn't fertilize, didn't water any extra," Melissa Smith said. "It was God's handiwork."

But not everyone was a fan.

The Ridgeview Park Homeowners Association demanded the Smiths mow the bluebonnets and re-sod the front lawn, the Morning News said. Eventually, the association sent a certified letter through a Dallas law office requiring the Smiths to conform to the "aesthetic harmony" of the subdivision.

"It's funny to us that we can get in such trouble for growing the Texas state flower," Melissa Smith said.

The Smiths and the association have reached a compromise. The couple can keep the wildflowers as long as they are contained in flowerbeds. Any not in beds have to be mowed away or controlled with weed killer, the Morning News said.


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KEYWORDS: gitchegumee; ha; hoa; jpb; springbluebonnets; texas
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I live in the country, myself.

And I think HOAs can be over-zealous. (Typically a retired Army supply offficer with too much time on his hands get in charge somehow.)

But I see the validity. No one wants “Coming to America” put in next door, and you make a deal to keep it normal.


21 posted on 04/19/2010 1:28:08 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: MEGoody

You need to buy them out..or leave.....

IT AINT YOUR PROPERTY~

get it????????


22 posted on 04/19/2010 3:44:44 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: JoeProBono

Some years ago, a friend of mine had a neighbor who was trying to get “lawn of the month” to the point he wouldn’t let any of the neighborhood kids play on it, even his own.

I gave my fiend a big bag of wildflower seeds.

He *liberally* strew them over the guy’s yard one night and waited.

The guy watered and fertilized and couldn’t understand why his yard looked like an upland meadow.


23 posted on 04/19/2010 3:51:21 PM PDT by PLMerite (Ride to the sound of the Guns - I'll probably need help.)
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To: PLMerite
Love it!! When my kids were small they thought we had the prettiest lawn of all...filled with dandelions. Now years later our lawn looks more like my neighbors well manicured lawn...you made think of those days when my lawn did look cool with the yellow among the green. Thanks.
24 posted on 04/19/2010 5:25:14 PM PDT by Dianer0839
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To: elpinta

Spring Wild flowers in Texas Hill country rivals New Hampshire in the Fall. I hope I never live under the classless boot of a HOA.


25 posted on 04/19/2010 6:20:23 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: PLMerite

Anyone (with a brain) trying for “yard of the month” would have liberally dosed his yard with preimmergent.


26 posted on 04/19/2010 6:35:43 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: M-cubed
IT AINT YOUR PROPERTY

Actually, if someone moves into an area with a Home Owner's Association, they have agreed to abide by certain rules. If they later decide they don't want to follow those rules, they must move.

In areas where there is no HOA, I can still have a rather spirited discussion with my neighbor about how they are affecting my property rights. And if they are violating city ordinances, I can report them.

27 posted on 04/20/2010 7:52:49 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: svcw
They should not have complied.

Why do you not fill that contracts should be honored?

28 posted on 04/20/2010 7:57:19 AM PDT by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: TheThirdRuffian

I agree.

I am appalled at Freepers who say they have no qualms about signing a HOA agreement, thereby agreeing to the terms, then breaking the rules.

People who do that, do not honor their contracts. Simple as that.


29 posted on 04/20/2010 8:01:27 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: ottbmare

The simple fact is that when you sign a CONTRACT [aka the HOA agreement], you are agreeing to abide by the laws now and in the future as long as you live there.

The rules are changing contants in most HOAs. If you can’t handle it, leave.


30 posted on 04/20/2010 8:04:33 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: ColdWater
I believe contracts should be honored. However, HOA boards change on a regular basis and each board has the potential to run wild with their interpretation of the HOA CCRs and Rules. Unless the CCRs and or Rules specifically said “front lawns (grass) only”. They should not have complied.
If the Rules said landscaped front yards, that is up to the interpretation of the owner and this is were a rouge board can wreak havoc.
31 posted on 04/20/2010 8:20:42 AM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: BunnySlippers

Wait a minute—who are you aiming this at? I served on the board of directors of our HOA and chaired the committee that controls community appearance. I also rewrote the “guidelines” (= rules) for maintenance and appearance.

But I insist that it’s a true injustice when petty-minded, envious people who have nothing else to do with their lives say, “Hm, I don’t like the type of bushes those homeowners installed. Let’s rewrite the rules to accord with my tastes, then use the multi-hundred-thousand-dollar budget of the HOA to torment the homeowner into submission to my desires.” Or, alternately, “I don’t like that neighbor, so I’m going to use the legal firm of the HOA to make his life difficult.”

Remember, when you sign a contract in the business world, one side can’t suddenly change the terms of the contract.


32 posted on 04/20/2010 9:22:02 AM PDT by ottbmare (I could agree wth you, but then we'd both be wrong.)
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To: svcw

They were letting the flowers spread like weeds all over even beyond their property line. Fortunately not every one is as confrontational as you are. They reached a happy medium of containing the flowers in beds and even won Yard of the Month. Honorable mention.


33 posted on 04/20/2010 9:23:51 AM PDT by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: ColdWater

That I can see. Your landscaping should not intrude on others property.


34 posted on 04/20/2010 9:26:14 AM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: ottbmare

The CC&Rs change when they are amended. The Board can do that anytime.

The Board makes all sorts of decisions as to parking, neighbor disputes, landscaping and what the appearance of the place looks like. They set fines and levy them.

A homeowner, as an owner, has a vote as to who is on the Board. But the rules are not static and change all the time.


35 posted on 04/20/2010 11:42:55 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: BunnySlippers

Fortunately, legal findings disagree with you. Rules can and do change, but they cannot be changed capriciously to indulge personal vendettas.


36 posted on 04/20/2010 12:12:35 PM PDT by ottbmare (I could agree wth you, but then we'd both be wrong.)
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To: ottbmare

Who said anything about “capriciously” or “vendettas”.

Rules change all the time depending on what the Board of Directors feels needs changing. They have to vote on it. You’ll find it spelled out in the CC&Rs.

As an owner you have one vote as to who gets to serve on the Board.

So, tell me which legal findings you’re talking about?


37 posted on 04/20/2010 12:25:10 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: M-cubed
get it????????

HOAs are legal entities, disclosed and in place at the time of purchase. They have legal standing for limited governance.

Get it?

38 posted on 04/20/2010 2:28:03 PM PDT by gogeo ("Every one has a right to be an idiot. He abuses the privilege!" Groucho Marx)
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To: PLMerite

That’s just wrong...no conservative, you.


39 posted on 04/20/2010 2:28:59 PM PDT by gogeo ("Every one has a right to be an idiot. He abuses the privilege!" Groucho Marx)
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