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7-day-old Florida infant dies after pit bull bite
Miami Herald ^

Posted on 04/14/2010 3:32:37 PM PDT by Chet 99

NEW PORT RICHEY, Fla. -- A pit bull terrier fatally mauled a 7-day-old baby Wednesday as the child apparently lay next to his sleeping teenage mother.

The mother, whom neighbors identified as Nicole Koezeno, 16, didn't discover Thomas James Carter Jr. was dead until a neighbor said she knocked on the mother's door and woke her around noon. Koezeno answered the door, then turned around and saw what had happened to her newborn son, neighbors told the St. Petersburg Times.

Neighbor Jackie Frishe, 19, said the baby had claw and puncture marks on his back and stomach.

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/04/14/1579228/7-day-old-florida-infant-dies.html#ixzz0l7IZ8GoY

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TOPICS: Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: maul; mixbreed; pitbull
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To: Shimmer1

I’ve got four kids. I would not have slept through such an attack, and would not have slept till noon. This is a careless mother. She is a party to the crime.


41 posted on 04/14/2010 7:32:48 PM PDT by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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To: Chet 99; cripplecreek; Scotsman will be Free; oldenuff2no; historyrepeatz; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; ...
A pit bull terrier fatally mauled a 7-day-old baby Wednesday as the child apparently lay next to his sleeping teenage mother.

. . . using the term "sleeping" very, VERY loosely.

In real English, she was "dead drunk", or "crashed after a meth binge", or something along those lines.

If, as some posters have suggested, she was taking strong pain meds due to post-birth pain, she certainly had no business sleeping next to the baby in the same bed. If a snarling pit bull mauling her screaming baby isn't going to wake her up, you can be sure that the little baby struggling to breathe after she's rolled over on top of it wouldn't wake her up either.

I hope police took a blood sample from her very quickly.

42 posted on 04/14/2010 8:00:26 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: goat granny

Yes, I slept lighter. I can’t imagine sleeping through a baby’s scream. I just don’t want to blame her for drugs or something. It just hurts hearing of this as it is.
I have a month old granddaughter. I am so thankful my grand is taken care of and is secure and safe.


43 posted on 04/14/2010 8:08:30 PM PDT by Shimmer1
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To: GatorGirl
Been on pit bull threads for almost a year. If you think that was vulgar and crude, sorry you grew up in a different neighborhood than I did...That was a very good post to the remarks that were made...imho.. didn't use one swear word although I did partially spell one...
44 posted on 04/14/2010 8:53:59 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: historyrepeatz

A heavy lead supplement in every pit bull would prevent kids from being killed by them.


45 posted on 04/14/2010 11:29:55 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96)
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To: goat granny

Based on the story, I would say that you have no more info than anyone else, but you have no problem getting on a soapbox and bloviating away with your opinion.
Based on the story it is just as likely, if not more so, that the “mother” was drunk, stoned or both. Or killed the kid and had the dog chew it up afterwards.
Speaking of getting out of the basement, you may wish to get out of yours and see what too many sixteen year old girls with a newborn living with a guy with a pitbull are really like.
They ain’t pioneers and it ain’t 1840.


46 posted on 04/15/2010 3:23:14 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Salamander; shibumi; kanawa

http://suncoastpasco.tbo.com/content/2010/apr/15/dog-killed-week-old-boy-be-euthanized-today/

Interesting...Yesterday he was a 90lb pit bull terrier, today he’s a 45-50lb mix who was fighting with another dog in the house when the cops arrived; pending euthanasia in case they need a cast of the dog’s teeth.

Hmmm...


47 posted on 04/15/2010 9:04:40 AM PDT by LongElegantLegs ( I have nothing better to do than sit around all night watching a lunatic not turn into a werewolf.)
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To: Scotsman will be Free

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48 posted on 04/15/2010 3:43:15 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: LongElegantLegs
The 90lb claim in the original article caught my attention.

Further searching turned up the following photo
that seems to me to show a mix breed and indications of fighting...


49 posted on 04/15/2010 4:59:45 PM PDT by kanawa
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~snip~

Sidon, whose estimated weight was between 45 and 50 pounds, left more than 50 puncture wounds in tiny Thomas Carter Jr. The baby’s mother, 16-year-old Nicole Koezeno, awoke when a friend stopped by the family’s mobile home at 10548 Olsen St. around 11:45 a.m. and found her bloodied son. She had been sleeping in the same bedroom with the baby and dog but reportedly did not hear the attack.

When a Pasco Animal Services officer arrived at the home Wednesday afternoon, the canine was fighting another dog, said agency Manager Denise Hilton.

Hilton said she was told by a canine attack expert that it’s highly unusual for a dog to continue being aggressive after a first attack.

“This dog has numerous injuries and bites all over its body due the dog fight,” she said early today.
Sidon, Hilton said, was not neutered.

“This, again, was an intact male dog, which tend to be more aggressive,” she said. “He should’ve been neutered before he was a year old.”

~snip~

“This is something that never should’ve happened,” Hilton said of the latest attack. “People need to realize the potential of these animals. They are animals. They’re not people.”

Jim Crosby, division manager for Bay County Animal Control in the Panama City area, has studied fatal dog attacks throughout the country and in Canada. He said that fatal dog attacks are rare.

“It’s incredibly uncommon,” he said today. “You have about a 10-time higher likelihood of dying from slipping in your bathtub.”

So far this year, either eight or nine fatal dog attacks have been reported nationwide, he said. That number is on par for the annual average of less than 30.

For example, Crosby said, compare that to the average of about 60 people who die annually from bee stings.

“Most of the victims of the fatal attacks are children,” he said. “…Over time, about 76 percent of all fatal dog attack victims are 12 and under and most of those are 6 and under.”

Of the dozens of cases he’s investigated, he has seen some similarities.

“The most common denominator with fatal attacks is lack of supervision with children and dogs,” Crosby said.

And it’s not necessarily any one breed that is the culprit of most attacks. In fact, he said, he’s seen everything from pit bulls to dachshunds to Pomeranians kill humans.

“I would say that big dogs tend to be more commonly involved than little dogs,” he conceded, adding that the dogs’ sizes made more serious damage easier. “It’s a matter of physics.”

Why dogs attack differs, he said.

“Every one of them varies a little bitm just like a homicide,” he said, noting that some are just born a little off mentally.

“You get dogs that are the Ted Bundys.”

In many cases, he said, the dog that becomes aggressive has not been properly socialized, trained or loved.

And in most cases, he said, it’s not simply that a dog just snaps – something provokes or triggers it.

“It’s extremely rare for a dog to just go off,” Crosby said. “Something gets the ball rolling.”

In other cases, the dog thinks it’s playing.

“In many cases, it appears the dog thought the child is a chew toy,” Crosby said matter-of-factly.

What caused Sidon to attack Thomas Carter Jr. might never be known.

A question that remains on many people’s minds is why his young mother did not hear the attack.

“I’ve been confronted by plenty of aggressive dogs and I’ve never been confronted by a silent dog,” he said. “I can’t imagine a child sleeping through a mauling. A baby is born screaming.”

A friend who stayed over the family’s home said Tuesday she heard the baby cry briefly a few minutes before he was found. But roommate Jonathan Gibson, who was asleep on the other end of the small mobile home, said he didn’t hear any “vicious sounds.”

“Only the good Lord above knows what really happened inside that room, and it’s just a tragic accident,” Gibson said.

http://www2.tbo.com/content/2010/apr/15/dog-killed-week-old-boy-be-euthanized-today/


50 posted on 04/15/2010 5:18:59 PM PDT by kanawa
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To: goat granny

LOL


51 posted on 04/16/2010 12:04:22 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Scotsman will be Free

Just an agknowlegement that I read your post.......


52 posted on 04/16/2010 3:04:55 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: goat granny

I thought that it was a symbol for “Kiss my a$$.” Wouldn’t be the first time I was told that.


53 posted on 04/16/2010 3:28:09 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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Pasco family mourns newborn as pit bull put to death
54 posted on 04/16/2010 12:05:29 PM PDT by kanawa
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To: familyop
I wonder if the pit bull owners will be posting happy hippo images and jokes in this thread.

Exactly, or chiming in with the ol' ... It's not the dogs that are dangerous, it's bad owners crap ...
55 posted on 04/16/2010 12:07:30 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: historyrepeatz

You’re an ass, you will be judged.


56 posted on 04/16/2010 12:09:05 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scotsman will be Free

Boy do I owe a lot of people an apology...Never heard of that being the meaning of the *....sometimes I just don’t want to answer so acknowledge I read it....I guess I need to find another symbol to use....Does the pound symbol mean any thing in freeper language..:O)

I know a few phrases but thats one I don’t use..


57 posted on 04/16/2010 12:29:50 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: Scythian
All dogs are potentially dangerous.
Anyone who disagrees with that is a fool.

No bad owners involved in this story?

58 posted on 04/16/2010 2:00:33 PM PDT by kanawa
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To: goat granny

“Boy do I owe a lot of people an apology.”
Whoa there girl. I stated that I thought that’s what you meant. I have no clue if it does or not. Could mean nothing at all.
I usually respond with a thanks, or yeah right or something along those lines. I’ve never used symbols except the sarcasm off symbol used on this forum.


59 posted on 04/16/2010 8:42:01 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Scotsman will be Free

chuckles to you. A symbol is less typing and I am basically lazy...:O)


60 posted on 04/16/2010 8:52:41 PM PDT by goat granny
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