Fresh Tissues from Solid Rock

Institute for Creation Research ^ | 02/01/2010 | Brian Thomas, M.S.

[rae4palin]

Thanks for the post.

[rae4palin]

I’ll bet you already knew this.

[GraceG]

Well at least it makes cloning dinosaurs back into existance that much easier.

[frogjerk]

[stinkerpot65]

Evolution is a faith.

[Ol' Dan Tucker]

They did not comment on the trouble these tissues bring to evolution's assumption of deep time, but their silence regarding the "elephant in the room" question of how a "fresh" fossilized salamander could exist after millions of years does not diminish the question's relevance.

How would this same muscle tissue remain "fresh" after 6,000 years?

[lasereye]

How would this same muscle tissue remain "fresh" after 6,000 years?

In another article on this topic, Dinosaur Soft Tissue: Biofilm or Blood Vessels? he says that biomolecues have a lifespan of no more than 100,000 years. For collagen it's 30,000 years. So 6,000 years is not an obstacle.

[lasereye]

Evolution is a faith.

Rubbish! No evos will attack this on the ground that it comes from a Christian website!

[allmendream]

Well OBVIOUSLY the only thing that makes sense is that the dinosaurs lived within the last 6,000 years contemporaneously with humanity and yet somehow got fossilized >95% into rock, and that starlight from 100 million light years away made the trip in less than 6,000 years!/s

When you find a dinosaur bone that is BONE and not mineralized fossil you may have found something, but not what you will presume you have found.

[lasereye]

The idea that it takes millions of years for anything to fossilize is incorrect. Wood has been observed to fossilize in a short time.

Rapid Petrification of Wood

Starlight and Time: Solving the Puzzle of Distant Starlight in a Young Universe by Russell Humphreys, an accomplished physicist, develops a theory of how we could be seeing distant starlight in a young universe.

[mgstarr]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/slc987/evolution.jpg

;-)

[count-your-change]

It's like the “fresh” fish served at the local restaurant, "fresh" when it was frozen in 1957.

[Raymann]

I will! :)

But I also have other grounds.

1. This is hardly a scientific article, their first reference simply states, “These remains must have been deposited catastrophically, either as a result of Noah’s Flood or from smaller, local post-Flood catastrophes...” That’s just an assertion, references are supposed to site additional sources of evidence. They also cite a CBS 60 Minutes interview; you just don’t do that, they should have sited the interviewees paper on the subject.

2. With the exception of the first reference that’s just an assertion and the last which they claim is their research, no other cited source backs up their claims. They’re picking and choosing what information they like from those sources. One of the scientists who found the bacteria says straight up that they’re 300 million years old. The lead author on the study finding the soft tissue says it’s 18 million years old. Their own references contradict their report.

3. Their “research” obviously didn’t proceed beyond the cited article which is essentially little more then a university press release (any creditable research institute would have a jstor account so could read the entire paper). They criticized one of the cited articles because they didn’t mention how the preservation was achieved. That’s a loaded question for a new discovery and unlike the IRC, that team is still doing the research (and of course ICR didn’t mention that McNamara is a leading researcher looking to answer that question...in fact that’s what she’s doing right now).

[Ol' Dan Tucker]

Any idea what area or specialty his science degree is in?

[Ol' Dan Tucker]

It's like the “fresh” fish served at the local restaurant, "fresh" when it was frozen in 1957.

:)

Shades of Ramsey's Kitchen Nightmares...

[allmendream]

Why do we find every dinosaur bone as mineralized and not bone, and yet we find just about every modern mammalian mega fauna as actual bone? Fossilized wood doesn't answer the question.

Starlight denoting an old star from one hundred million light years distant would be denoting a position where no star had ever been within the ‘actual’ six thousand years that you will accept as the age of the universe. Thus this beam of light would LOOK like it was from a star, but no star was ever there. Does your god lie. The God I worship doesn't lie.

[mgstarr]

Brian Thomas received his bachelors degree in biology from Stephen F. Austin State University, Nacogdoches, Texas, in 1993. After teaching at Angelina Christian School and beginning graduate studies in science education at the Institute for Creation Research Graduate School, he returned to Stephen F. Austin State, where he earned a masters degree in biotechnology in 1999. From 2000 to 2005, he taught 9th and 12th grade biology at Ovilla Christian School in Ovilla, Texas, as well as general biology and general chemistry as an adjunct professor at Navarro College, Waxahachie, Texas. He taught biology, chemistry, and anatomy as an assistant professor at Dallas Baptist University from 2005 until 2008, and co-founded the Center for Christian Apologetics in Houston.

Well I'm certainly impressed.

[Ol' Dan Tucker]

Brian Thomas received his bachelors degree in biology from Stephen F. Austin State University, Nacogdoches, Texas, in 1993. After teaching at Angelina Christian School and beginning graduate studies in science education at the Institute for Creation Research Graduate School, he returned to Stephen F. Austin State, where he earned a masters degree in biotechnology in 1999. From 2000 to 2005, he taught 9th and 12th grade biology at Ovilla Christian School in Ovilla, Texas, as well as general biology and general chemistry as an adjunct professor at Navarro College, Waxahachie, Texas. He taught biology, chemistry, and anatomy as an assistant professor at Dallas Baptist University from 2005 until 2008, and co-founded the Center for Christian Apologetics in Houston.

Thanks.

[lasereye]

It could be that bone takes longer to fossilize, but still far less than millions of years. Has someone proven that it actually takes that long, or is it just an assumption?

Starlight denoting an old star from one hundred million light years distant would be denoting a position where no star had ever been within the ‘actual’ six thousand years that you will accept as the age of the universe.

Based on how his theory works, I don't believe that's true.