Posted on 04/05/2010 6:44:39 AM PDT by myknowledge
Sounds like “discostu” took you apart and took names to me.
Windows users may think so, because of their vested interests in their beige boxes ... but anyone who has a Macintosh already knows...
You can't change the experience of these Macintosh users and what they know from their own experience, just from someone saying something different that Windows users like to parrot... LOL ...
I've always said, over the years, if you want to make money as a computer repairman, you better forget about working on Macintosh computers... because "Windows" is where the repairs are at ... LOL ...
Take it up with Apple, they know their stuff breaks, sorry you can’t seem to wrap your head around that very simple fact. We’re done until you get a map to reality.
Well, I'm sorry if you can't wrap your head around the fact that Windows is where all the "money" is at for repairs... I mean, if I'm advising someone how to really "make money repairing computers" -- I would be a big liar to tell them to go to Macintosh... they would come back and shoot me in a year... doncha know.
But, if I tell them, "Go to Windows".... they'll come back in a year and thank me profusely for directing them to the right spot for making money... :-)
Stop lying. I never once said anything about whether or not PCs break and whether or not one could make money fixing. ALL I said was that Macs, just like everything else made by humans, break and need to be repaired, and that enough companies out there do it that clearly money CAN be made fixing them. That’s what I said, and if you say I said anything else you are lying. Do not lie about what I said.
Naaaah.
He did take you apart fair and square. But hey, you maybe be too deaf and blind to have seen it.
Windows users may think so, because of their vested interests in their beige boxes
What “vested interest you talking about dude?
“You can't change the experience of these Macintosh users and what they know from their own experience”
Chortle! That's why Apple has a very long list of people who repair broken Macs
I never once said anything about whether or not PCs break and whether or not one could make money fixing. ALL I said was that Macs, just like everything else made by humans, break and need to be repaired, and that enough companies out there do it that clearly money CAN be made fixing them.
Well, let me tell you what I said -- if you want to "make money" -- forget about making it as a Macintosh repairman. You're gonna make a "whole lot more money" -- as a Windows repairman of their crapware beige boxes than you'll ever make on Macintosh ... LOL ...
He did take you apart fair and square. But hey, you maybe be too deaf and blind to have seen it.
I don't have to see what he did -- all I have to see is what my computers do... and that's why I said you're not going to make money being a Macintosh repairman, unless you want to be like the "Maytag guy" doncha know ... LOL ...
And I find the same thing from other Macintosh users, too. I've been around them for a real long time and they all tell me that stuff is built real good and they don't have repair problems.
So, what can someone else tell me that I don't already know from my own experience over 25 years and from mixing with a whole lot of Macintosh people?
Not much, because I know what happens with these Macintosh computers...
What “vested interest you talking about dude?
I'm talking about the "nattering nabobs of negativity" that always infest any Macintosh thread, because they don't like the good user experience that Macintosh users have...
You see it all the time around here... it's nothing new ... :-)
Chortle! That's why Apple has a very long list of people who repair broken Macs
They've got a list of Maytag repairmen too... they have second jobs, doncha know ... LOL ...
As I said, if you want to do something "on the side" with Macintosh, as a hobby, that may be one thing -- but -- if you want to "make money" (as in make a living) -- a person is a whole lot better off repairing the crapware of Windows beige knock-off boxes... :-)
Sure you do, or you wouldn't have gotten into an argument with him, and get badly beaten.
“I'm talking about the “nattering nabobs of negativity” that always infest any Macintosh thread”
You mean like the Apple jihadst pinheads like you, who infest every single Windows thread on every single tech site on the internet?
“They've got a list of Maytag repairmen too...”
And they break down just like Apple Macs do.
” they have second jobs, doncha know ... “
On Mars perhaps. This happens to be real life.
Sure you do, or you wouldn't have gotten into an argument with him, and get badly beaten.
LOL ... you can't get beat on what you know directly... it doesn't work that way. I've already got the direct experience on it and I've already got the direct interaction from other Macintosh people and users -- and you don't get beat on what "happens" directly in front of your face.
Now, the other guy may think he's done it -- but that's why I say the Macintosh people already know that -- with Macintosh and how good they are and how they hold up. And it's been a long-standing joke in the community that the repairmen would be like the Maytag guy.
As far as getting into an argument with him -- of course -- because I've got the direct experience and I've got the contacts within the Macintosh community. I already know differently.
You mean like the Apple jihadst pinheads like you, who infest every single Windows thread on every single tech site on the internet?
I think you've got that one backward. You look on these threads here and you'll find the Windows users promoting their crapware on Macintosh threads ... LOL ..
It would appear that they can't stand Macintosh users having such a good experience with their computers and equipment.
Hey! It happens all the time here... and this thread is the perfect example, as it's not a Windows thread, but a Macintosh thread ... LOL ...
And they break down just like Apple Macs do.
That's another one I would say... don't get into a business where you can't make money on repairs... doncha know.
Hey! I'm all for repairmen "making money" -- and if you're advising one as to what "business" to get into -- don't advise them to get into the Macintosh repair business or you'll be doing them a real big disfavor. Recommend to them to get into fixing the beige crapware Windows boxes -- and they'll thank you profusely for your wisdom ... LOL ...
On Mars perhaps. This happens to be real life.
Naaah..., it's the Windows crapware users that I find end up on Mars, doncha know ...
Heck! They can't even manage to get anything going on their own Windows threads, so they have to come into Macintosh threads like chattering magpies and tell Macintosh users (the ones who already know how well their machines are, you see...) and tell them that they're completely mistaken in the impression that they have about those machines they've been using for years ... LOL ...
That's from Mars... doncha know....
You don't know sh**, and your attempts to spew out Apple talking points were crushed by “discostu” with little effort.
“I think you've got that one backward. “
Naah. Every single Windows thread is infested by Apple jihadists on every tech site on the internet, even sites that only deal with Windows. What are Mac jihadists doing trolling Windows sites?
“Naaah..., it's the Windows crapware users that I find end up on Mars,”
Is that why after over 30 years in business, Apple still has less than 4% market share in the personal computer business worldwide, and Windows PC's continue to grab over 92% of all personal computers sold on the planet? Consumers worldwide, are too darn smart to waste their hard earned money, on Apple's overpriced junk.
You mean “crapware” like these?
Apple plugs 88 Mac OS X security holes
Apple today released one of its biggest Mac OS X security updates in recent memory, covering a whopping 88 documented vulnerabilities
http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=5916
Apple patches 22 security holes in Mac OS X
Apple patches 22 security holes in Mac OS X. By AppleInsider Staff. Published: 05:00 PM EST. A new security update released by Apple Computer on Tuesday ...
http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=2266
Apple Leaves Major Java Security Hole Open for Mac Users ...
May 20, 2009 ... A security researcher releases a proof-of-concept exploit making use of a Java flaw affecting Mac OS X. The flaw can be exploited via ...
http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/Apple-Leaves-Major-Java-Security-Hole-Open-for-Mac-Users-807301/
Apple fixes 33 Mac OS X security vulnerabilities, patches Flash ...
Sep 12, 2009 ... Apple shipped a mega-update of fixes for 33 serious security holes affecting Mac OS X users. The update patches 3rd-party components like ...
http://www.ditii.com/2009/09/12/apple-fixes-33-mac-os-x-security-vulnerabilities-patches-flash-snow-leopard/
Dashboard Leaves Macs Vulnerable
May 11, 2005 ... A new feature in Mac OS X Tiger contains a potential security hole that's just ... A security hole in Dashboard could expose users of Apple ...
http://www.wired.com/gadgets/mac/commentary/cultofmac/2005/05/67484
And most of all, like these?
Vista/7 more secure than Linux and Mac OS X
And the reason that Windows 7 will be successful is because of the pain we took ... But to say that it's more secure than Mac OS X or Linux, gimme a break. ...
http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=4146
Hacker: Windows More Secure Than Mac OS X
Sep 21, 2009 ... Hacker: Windows More Secure Than Mac OS X : Hackers just like the PC more. ... Windows 7 is more stable and responsive than Vista, ...
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/hack-windows-security-snow-leopard,8704.html
You mean “crapware” like these?
Apple plugs 88 Mac OS X security holes
Apple patches 22 security holes in Mac OS X
[ ... ]
LOL ... I've got more fingers on my hand than the Mac OS X has any viruses that infect the Macintosh computers ... :-)
On the other hand, the Windows platform has over 100,000 viruses and worms that actually do infect those machines and cause damage.
Heck! You may not know it -- but one of the biggest discussions that Macintosh users have about viruses -- is whether they should even bother with ever getting an anti-virus program.
I've had those Macintosh computers for over 25 years and in that length of time, I've had exactly "one" virus, and that was back in 1990... LOL ...
And I've been one of those who has run anti-virus programs (all during that time). I can't even get that thing to "beep" at me. It sometimes gets me to wonder if it's actually there, and so I run a test to find out that it actually is.
Good luck in even getting Macintosh people to consider getting an Anti-Virus program. It's like "Why bother? Nothing happens -- ever!" ... :-)
I go to some sites sometimes just to see if I can get infected (when someone here has said "There's a problem with this site!". I can't even get that to happen ... LOL ...
Windows 7 IS more secure than Apple's Snow Leopard.
That just happens to be FACT.
Vista, Windows 7 Are More Secure than Snow Leopard - PCWorld
A prominent security researcher claims that released Snow Leopard is less secure than either Vista or Windows 7.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/172197/vista_windows_7_are_more_secure_than_snow_leopard.html
Shocker: Windows 7 is More Secure Than Snow Leopard | Windows 7 News
Feb 18, 2010 ... Some even say that Windows 7 is more secure
http://windows7news.com/2010/02/18/shocker-windows-7-is-more-secure-than-snow-leopard/
Hacker Pwn2Own organizer: Windows 7 is safer than Snow Leopard ...
Feb 17, 2010 ... Not all hackers agree that Windows 7 is more secure than Snow Leopard. Security researcher Charlie Miller, who at the contest hacked into ...
http://blogs.computerworld.com/15605/hacker_pwn2own_organizer_windows_7_is_safer_than_snow_leopard
Snow Leopard less secure than Vista or Windows 7 says security ...
Sep 22, 2009 ... security – Softpedia Other Sources: Vista, Windows 7 Are More Secure than Snow Leopard – PC World Snow Leopard less secure than Vista or ...
http://www.geekwithlaptop.com/snow-leopard-less-secure-than-vista-or-windows-7-says-security-expert
What say you?
Windows 7 IS more secure than Apple's Snow Leopard.
That just happens to be FACT.
What?! You're saying that Mac OS X has two ancient viruses and Windows 7 has one? ... or what? LOL ...
I'll tell you what -- then. You run Windows 7 without any Antivirus protection and we'll run Mac OS X without any anti-virus protection and we'll see who gets "hosed" ... :-)
AND... that's not theory there... because there are a ton of Macintosh people that don't even bother with anti-virus programs. I know that Windows users couldn't get to sleep at night if they did that ... LOL ...
Nope.
I am saying Windows 7 is more secure than Apple's Snow Leopard, and I had the figures to prove it.
I am saying Windows 7 is more secure than Apple's Snow Leopard, and I had the figures to prove it.
Okay, you run Windows 7 for a year on the Internet -- without any Anti-virus program or protection, doing all your normal stuff -- and -- I'll run Mac OS X for a year, without any Anti-virus program or protection -- and we'll see who gets hosed first ... LOL ...
And, by the way, this is not "theoretical" either -- there are huge numbers of Macintosh OS X users doing that very thing right now and have done it for years... "no problem" ...
So, I'm more than happy to "give it a go" ... :-)
I have already run Windows 7 for nearly 2 years, since beta. It's rock solid, super secure and the best OS out there.
” without any Anti-virus program or protection, doing all your normal stuff — and “
Why would I do that, especially since Microsoft gives you a free security pack download with your Windows 7, called Microsoft Security Essentials?
http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/
“I'll run Mac OS X for a year, without any Anti-virus program or protection — and we'll see who gets hosed first ... LOL ... “
This is who wins:
Vista, Windows 7 Are More Secure than Snow Leopard - PCWorld
A prominent security researcher claims that released Snow Leopard is less secure than either Vista or Windows 7.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/172197/vista_windows_7_are_more_secure_than_snow_leopard.html
Shocker: Windows 7 is More Secure Than Snow Leopard | Windows 7 News
Feb 18, 2010 ... Some even say that Windows 7 is more secure
http://windows7news.com/2010/02/18/shocker-windows-7-is-more-secure-than-snow-leopard/
Hacker Pwn2Own organizer: Windows 7 is safer than Snow Leopard ...
Feb 17, 2010 ... Not all hackers agree that Windows 7 is more secure than Snow Leopard. Security researcher Charlie Miller, who at the contest hacked into ...
http://blogs.computerworld.com/15605/hacker_pwn2own_organizer_windows_7_is_safer_than_snow_leopard
Snow Leopard less secure than Vista or Windows 7 says security ...
Sep 22, 2009 ... security – Softpedia Other Sources: Vista, Windows 7 Are More Secure than Snow Leopard – PC World Snow Leopard less secure than Vista or ...
http://www.geekwithlaptop.com/snow-leopard-less-secure-than-vista-or-windows-7-says-security-expert
I have already run Windows 7 for nearly 2 years, since beta. It's rock solid, super secure and the best OS out there.
Okay, then you are going to run Windows 7 without any anti-virus protection then? That's what I was saying ... :-)
Why would I do that, especially since Microsoft gives you a free security pack download with your Windows 7, called Microsoft Security Essentials?
Well, simple -- to run in the same mode as most of the Mac OS X users run all the time -- without any Anti-virus protection at all... with no problems. :-)
You see... they have found out that they don't even have to run any Anti-virus -- because it's that secure ...
So, you run in the same mode as Mac OS X users run all the time and we'll see what happens to Windows ... LOL ...
You should have no problems with it since you say it's that safe... :-)
There is a already free anti-virus, anti-malware package from Microsoft that was launched with Windows 7, so why would anyone not download it? It's free, and it works very well with Windows 7
http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/
“Well, simple — to run in the same mode as most of the Mac OS X users run all the time — without any Anti-virus protection at all... with no problems. :-) “
Let's put it this way, Microsoft Security Essentials is part of Windows 7 OS security. The only reason Microsoft couldn't bundled it with Windows 7 is because of anti-trust complaints that were launched by the security software vendors just before Windows 7 was launched.
Apple doesn't have to worry about anti-trust because their market share is too tiny.
I already have ....for 2 years, and the results are the same, Window 7 security is rock solid.
To start off with the security holes in the Mac have nothing to do with anti-virus. It's a fundamental design flaw. Microsoft perfected that security technology over 3 years ago.
“Apple missed a golden opportunity to lock down Snow Leopard when it again failed to fully implement security technology that Microsoft perfected nearly three years ago in Windows Vista.
The security hole that Miller says Apple ignored, according to Computerworld, is address space layout randomization (ASLR) which “randomly assigns data to memory to make it tougher for attackers to determine the location of critical operating system functions, and thus make it harder for them to craft reliable exploits.”
http://www.pcworld.com/article/172197/vista_windows_7_are_more_secure_than_snow_leopard.html
This is precisely why..
Vista, Windows 7 Are More Secure than Snow Leopard - PCWorld
A prominent security researcher claims that released Snow Leopard is less secure than either Vista or Windows 7.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/172197/vista_windows_7_are_more_secure_than_snow_leopard.html
Shocker: Windows 7 is More Secure Than Snow Leopard | Windows 7 News
Feb 18, 2010
http://windows7news.com/2010/02/18/shocker-windows-7-is-more-secure-than-snow-leopard/
Hacker Pwn2Own organizer: Windows 7 is safer than Snow Leopard ...
Feb 17, 2010 .....
http://blogs.computerworld.com/15605/hacker_pwn2own_organizer_windows_7_is_safer_than_snow_leopard
Snow Leopard less secure than Vista or Windows 7 ...
http://www.geekwithlaptop.com/snow-leopard-less-secure-than-vista-or-windows-7-says-security-expert
You lose again, just like before.
There is a already free anti-virus, anti-malware package from Microsoft that was launched with Windows 7, so why would anyone not download it? It's free, and it works very well with Windows 7
Oh, that's easy to answer... to compare one system's operation as compared to another system's operation and see who gets "hosed" ... doncha know ... LOL ...
Apple doesn't have to worry about anti-trust because their market share is too tiny.
Oh... Apple doesn't have to bundle anything else with it, in the way of any Anti-virus protection... the users haven't ever wanted it. Nothing happens to the Mac OS X that way.
But, I see that Windows apparently thinks it's necessary with their system, eh? :-)
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