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Feds: Christian militia needed to be 'taken down'
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Posted on 03/30/2010 2:27:58 PM PDT by JoeProBono

DETROIT (AP) -- Federal authorities had been monitoring members of a Michigan-based Christian militia for some time but were forced to "take them down" over the weekend after learning of an imminent threat against police, the U.S. attorney leading the prosecution said Tuesday.

Barbara McQuade's comments came three days after eight members of a small group of "Christian warriors" were arrested in several Midwestern states and a day after the FBI nabbed a ninth suspect, Joshua Stone, following a standoff at a trailer in rural Michigan.

"The time had come that we needed to arrest them and take them down,"

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TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: christianmilitia; fbi; jpb; michigan; militia
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1 posted on 03/30/2010 2:27:58 PM PDT by JoeProBono
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To: JoeProBono

One thing I do know is that Christians, at least the ones that believe in Luke 22:36, would resort to violence only in self-defense.

I don’t believe a thing they say.


2 posted on 03/30/2010 2:30:46 PM PDT by wastedyears (The essence of training is to allow error without consequence.)
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To: JoeProBono

“the time had come . . . “

Color me cynical, but I suspect the time that had come was the launching of the PR campaign against the Tea Party by the administration.


3 posted on 03/30/2010 2:31:10 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: JoeProBono
" ... We believe that one day, as prophecy says, there will be an Anti-Christ. ... Jesus wanted us to be ready to defend ourselves using the sword and stay alive using equipment."

This guy would have had an easier argument using the constitution as a defense as opposed to trying to justify actions through scriptures.

4 posted on 03/30/2010 2:32:14 PM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: JoeProBono

How about that... canine webgear.


5 posted on 03/30/2010 2:32:37 PM PDT by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: ModelBreaker
Color me cynical, but I suspect the time that had come was the launching of the PR campaign against the Tea Party by the administration.

That does seem likely. And yet why hasn't there been a peep about the islamic training camps in the US?

6 posted on 03/30/2010 2:33:33 PM PDT by highlander_UW (Happiness doesn't come from owning something; it comes from being a part of something)
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To: ModelBreaker

Not to be a pain, but would you say the same if they were a group of Muslims who Feds allege were plotting to kill innocents?


7 posted on 03/30/2010 2:35:31 PM PDT by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: JoeProBono
They seem kookie, but I don't know all the evidence they have against them. I strongly suspect that the need for immediate takedown had more to do with an overall political strategy of this administration than any immediate threat. My opinion could easily change if they release some actual evidence against the group.

Have any of these "Christian militias" ever actually done any violence against government officials, or do they just plot?

8 posted on 03/30/2010 2:38:30 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: wastedyears

“One thing I do know is that Christians, at least the ones that believe in Luke 22:36, would resort to violence only in self-defense.”

If the quotes from their website are real, they have their theology all wrong. The injunction to Christians is to accept the persecution of the anti-Christ and go willingly with their tormentors, even to death. It’s a hard teaching and these guys don’t get it (if this website is real and this isn’t the start of a Reichstag Fire). Revelation is not a call to arms against the anti-Christ. It is the story of how God, not us, will end the reign of terror and remake Heaven and Earth. That’s a bit above our pay-grade.

It’ll suck to be the anti-Christ.


9 posted on 03/30/2010 2:38:30 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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10 posted on 03/30/2010 2:39:54 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: ModelBreaker
It’ll suck to be the anti-Christ.

He seems to be pretty happy. He's meeting with the French president.

11 posted on 03/30/2010 2:41:22 PM PDT by wastedyears (The essence of training is to allow error without consequence.)
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To: JoeProBono

These guys are Christian like Obamao is, but the media is going to harp on the Christian part, doing their multicultural bit to demonize all Christians. It is especially fun for them when they can get connections like militia and rightwing in there. Pipe bombs become weapons of mass destruction, and ideological links are made to the OKC bombing, even though there aren’t any. I’m glad the feds stopped these kooks before someone got hurt. God knows Napolitano has been praying for something like this since her jackbooted, anti conservative memo got exposed.


12 posted on 03/30/2010 2:43:43 PM PDT by pallis
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To: JoeProBono

Yeah like Ruby Ridge and Waco.


13 posted on 03/30/2010 2:45:21 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: JoeProBono; Beckwith; Fred Nerks; LucyT; little jeremiah
They look like my neigbors. I like them.

Innocent until proven guilty.

Lets see what they did.

I don't believe all the junk on the MSM.

How can 8 dirt poor farmers be a seditious threat to the government of the USA when we have a dozen or more Muslim para military trianing camps around the country who send their members to Pakistan and Yemen for training (tourists intone the FBI)?

IMHO , Obama wanted a Waco II shoot out and didn't get one. The orders came from the top but " They had to be taken down before they acted," a crisis from which the nation has been saved. Thank you..... thank you pretend president Obama!LOL.

Too bad such vigilence against Muslims was not in place at Fort Hood?

Allow me to introduce you to the new niggers of America, white trash militia all across the country? Think it will fly?Buahahahahahahaha!

If it does there is soon going to be a lot of shooting I am afraid.

Lets see Obama go after the real militia threat to America.Leave the dirt poor farmers alone, and while you are at it, secure our southern border. Leave the white trash militia alone, they will come for you in November no matter what you do, no matter how many you shoot, Obama.

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14 posted on 03/30/2010 2:45:47 PM PDT by Candor7 (Now's the time to ante up against the Obama Fascist Junta ( member NRA))
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“Not to be a pain, but would you say the same if they were a group of Muslims who Feds allege were plotting to kill innocents?”

Not from either of the last four administrations. They were very concerned that terrorist events that actually happened would make people think badly of Muslims.

Had a “takedown” of 9 Muslim men been coordinated with a very public and aggressive campaign by the Administration to discredit American Muslims, then my cynicism hat would start going on for that one too. I don’t think we need to worry about seeing that campaign anytime soon.

But there is a concerted campaign by the Administration (that amped up greatly as soon as the Health Care bill passed) to discredit American Christians and Tea Partiers. The timing of this move fits right in. Maybe it’s a coincidence. And it may be. But my cynical hat says it may not be.

Let me ask you a question. Do you think the acts required by the cynical hypothesis are beyond this administration?


15 posted on 03/30/2010 2:45:51 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: JoeProBono
“I didn't hear voices. I heard a voice...”

“And what did this voice say...”

(With an accent of JFK):
“As I stand here before you today, the Laker Girls cheerleading squad needs to be taken down a peg or two.”

16 posted on 03/30/2010 2:50:16 PM PDT by Leo Farnsworth (I'm really not Leo Farnsworth.)
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To: theDentist

There are groups of Muslims, training right here in the US for that very purpose, right now. When was the last time you heard of one of their camps being “taken down”... and when have you ever, ever heard so much liberal media howling over the arrest of ANY jihadist?


17 posted on 03/30/2010 2:50:44 PM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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To: JoeProBono; Charles Martel
Petey again?


18 posted on 03/30/2010 2:52:03 PM PDT by Daffynition (What's all this about hellfire and Dalmatians?)
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To: pallis
I’m glad the feds stopped these kooks before someone got hurt>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

reember ine thing. The first casualtyy of war is truth. And belive you me. The Americam people are ow at war with theoir own goverment. No doubt about it, right fromm the time of the DHS fonding on Right wing militants that Napolitano had to apologize to veterans for, but the finding stayed in place.

Obama wanted a WACO II shoot out and didn't get it, IMHO.Why the huge military presence of the FBI, for just 8 dirt poor farmers?

Looks like it was a campiagn organized event that fizzled to me.

19 posted on 03/30/2010 2:52:48 PM PDT by Candor7 (Now's the time to ante up against the Obama Fascist Junta ( member NRA))
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To: JoeProBono

What would be easier to infiltrate, a group of working class white guys who like guns or a very secretive group that is exclusively muslim, that live in compounds, recruit straight from prison, and run everyone off that they don’t know?

Now, almost certainly Jamaat al Fuqra is on the radar, but considering the obvious political fallout, when they get taken off, it will be done absolutely properly with no missteps.

If I were a Jamaat al Fuqra member, I wouldn’t fear LE as much as I would fear the American people.


20 posted on 03/30/2010 3:05:55 PM PDT by Molon Labbie
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