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Feds: Militia plotted for anti-government revolt
hosted ^ | Mar 30 | JOHN SEEWER

Posted on 03/30/2010 8:40:52 AM PDT by JoeProBono

WHEATLAND TOWNSHIP, Mich. (AP) -- Members of a rural Michigan-based Christian militia who believed a battle with the Antichrist was coming were plotting to attack police officers in hopes of fomenting a violent uprising against the government, federal prosecutors alleged.

Seven men and one woman believed to be part of the group called Hutaree were arrested over the weekend after raids in Michigan, Indiana and Ohio. The ninth suspect was arrested Monday night after a search in southern Michigan and was expected to be arraigned Tuesday.

FBI agents moved quickly against Hutaree because its members were planning an attack sometime in April, prosecutors said. Members had been undergoing paramilitary training, including learning how to shoot guns and make bombs, since 2008, according to an indictment. Authorities seized guns in the raids but would not say whether they found explosives.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: antichrist; christianmilitia; hutaree; jpb; militia

1 posted on 03/30/2010 8:40:52 AM PDT by JoeProBono
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To: JoeProBono
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2 posted on 03/30/2010 8:42:33 AM PDT by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: JoeProBono
Anti BIG government ... you dopes.

Just like me and everyone I know.

3 posted on 03/30/2010 8:42:41 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: JoeProBono
Members of a rural Michigan-based Christian militia who believed a battle with the Antichrist was coming were plotting to attack police officers in hopes of fomenting a violent uprising against the government, federal prosecutors alleged

And Iran's despot ahamdnutjob believes the 12th imam is coming and he has to foment a violent uprising with Israel to usher him in. And the US govt is doing....
4 posted on 03/30/2010 8:43:34 AM PDT by silverleaf (Karl Marx was NOT one of America's Founding Fathers)
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To: JoeProBono

“FBI agents moved quickly against Hutaree...” because it makws really good propaganda right now. Angry, white people with guns.


5 posted on 03/30/2010 8:47:01 AM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
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To: JoeProBono

The press is really playing up the “Christian” title...aren’t they?


6 posted on 03/30/2010 8:47:22 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: ReneeLynn

‘makes’


7 posted on 03/30/2010 8:48:02 AM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
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To: JoeProBono
I'm soooo against anarchy.
But The media has accented the words, Christian Militia, a group of people meeting, anti government, anti authority.
What if these guys were set up?
I heard a lib on the radio today condemning them on just how mean they looked.
Kinda looks like our snowmobile club only these guys are dressed in cammo.
8 posted on 03/30/2010 9:07:58 AM PDT by lucky american (If you think the Libs care about your health.....LOLOLOL)
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To: JoeProBono

Looks like the average group of folks around here that frequent the sporting goods store and gun trading shop. The liberals would pee in their pants were they to spend a weekend here.


9 posted on 03/30/2010 9:19:13 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: lucky american; JoeProBono

Is is obvious that the makers and sellers of camo clothing will come under scrutiny and harassment by the federal government.


10 posted on 03/30/2010 9:25:29 AM PDT by oyez (The difference in genius and stupidity is that genius has it limits.)
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To: verity

The FBI is using the left wing dinosaur media to demonize this group just like they did to Pastor Koresh and his flock.


11 posted on 03/30/2010 9:26:26 AM PDT by SUSSA
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To: JoeProBono

Why on Earth would they plan on attacking cops to foment anti-government violence?

Cops aren’t the ones damaging this country beyond repair.

Why not go after the actual enemies of our Constitutional Republic?

I mean, come on people... focus on the problem at hand.


12 posted on 03/30/2010 9:49:12 AM PDT by EricT. (Can we start hanging them yet?)
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To: SumProVita

Yes. Every domestic Islamist attack “isn’t terrorism” until the ties and writings come out.

There are other doomsday cults who are against our Capitalist form of government and want us to all submit to Gaia Mother Earth and using Marxist redistribution schemes to syphon taxpayer dollars and national wealth to the third world.

The media is witchhunting Christians.


13 posted on 03/30/2010 10:20:28 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (VP Biden on Obamacare's passage: "This is a big f-ing deal". grumpygresh: "Repeal the f-ing deal")
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To: JoeProBono
From Mike Vanderboegh, Sipsey Street Irregulars:

Hutaree Raid:

An extremely well-executed federal operation aimed at the threat represented by the revitalized militia & Oath Keepers.

As a powerful political counter-stroke it was masterful. You have to give them credit. Putting a provocateur into a group of not-very-well wrapped Millennialists (see Churchill, To Shake Their Guns in the Tyrants Face) and assisting them to:

a. build and distribute pipe bombs and

b. talk about plots to kill cops that involve killing innocents, family members, etc.,

was well thought out, perfectly targeted, craftily planned, brilliantly executed and impeccably timed.

I realized this when I was outside talking to the three cops who showed up at my door to collect the birdshit Easter card. To begin with, the phone rang. Would I please meet the officer outside? Sure.

So I walked out in my shirtsleeves, thinking I would simply hand the guy (remember, I had been told they would send one officer) the ziplock bag, fill out a report, and then could go turn in after a very exhausting day.

I wasn't even off the porch before I understood something very different was going on here. Three deputies, not one. Spread out, hands on weapons, bright light in my face, commanding me to come to them. It was so ludicrous I laughed and said, "What? You want me to put my hands in the air?"

They didn't but they weren't laughing either.

Look, I told them, I just called you guys because that's what the Coroner's Office told me to do. They were tense as hell. Two of them knew me from local Pinson events, political and otherwise. The other, the one with the least experience, was the most obviously nervous and he's the one who approached from the side always training the light in my eyes.

So, after I get them calmed down and explain what is going on, it becomes obvious that they are concerned that I am a maddog militiaman. The Hutaree business was fresh in their minds. "Christian militia." "Kill cops at the funeral."

They're "militia." I'm "militia." I actually think they expected me to defend the assholes. As we had some time before the fire department trucks got there (and then they decided they weren't equipped to handle the situation so they asked for HAZMAT backup), I started talking about the many death threats I have had over the years and about my belief that it is better to be despised by the despicable than admired by the admirable. We talked about death threats in 90s, and my ever expanding list of enemies. I told them about how the FBI had been letting certain neoNazi terrorists run free back then, and how we -- the constitutional militia -- embarrassed them finally into arresting the pukes. I told them how we worked with state and local law enforcement to prevent racist-terrorist initiated clouds of pink mist here and across the country.

They just kept coming back to the Hutaree.

And it wasn't, I sensed, merely because it had just happened. The details of the thing as reported in the media and passed along by "cop telegraph" -- based entirely on the word of a federal provacateur at this point -- had seized their imaginations. "Christian Militia." "Assassinating a police officer." "Mass killing of cops' families at a funeral." "At a FUNERAL."

"Militiaman" = "Cop killer" As obvious as two plus two.

For the Imperial Feds, this was a propaganda coup of the tenth order of magnitude.

For this wasn't really about the Hutaree. It was about the revitalized constitutional militia movement and Oath Keepers. It may not have started out to be, when they began their operation against the Hutaree back in 2008, but at some point along the line, I'll bet, somebody saw the opportunity and took it.

Based upon the nervousness, fear and hatred of the Feds for Oath Keepers (as evidenced by the number and frequency of their verbal attacks on it), we knew that at some point they were going to feel compelled to get serious about dealing with the threat OK posed to their strategic certainty. (That is, "if I issue this tyrannical order, will these people carry it out -- or turn on me?")

Gentlemen and ladies, you just witnessed the seriousness of their intent to discredit Oath Keepers. The Hutaree meme strikes at the seam between the military and police who are attracted by the Oath Keepers' simple message, and the armed citizenry who are their natural allies in supporting and defending the Constitution and in the maintenance of order in society as a whole.

The Hutaree, apparently useful idiots to a man, may indeed not be guilty of what they are charged. It does not matter. Even if all the charges are later expoosed to be the fevered imaginings of snitches and provocateurs (and I don't think they will be), the Feds have reaped an incalculable benefit from the exercise.

They have, in the minds of every cop in America, equated the word "militia" with the word "cop killer."

From now on, every cop will approach us with that in mind. Every conversation about militia will have to deal with the Hutaree first. The Feds have put us all on the ideological defensive. The fact that it enunciates a lie does not matter. People will "know" from now on that all militiamen and women are copkillers.

Brilliant. You must give them credit. It was brilliant.

NOTE: Vanderboegh is a vocal opponent of the takeover of our lives by the federal government. He has been the target of many death threats. Most recently, he recieved an Easter card with an unknown substance inside.

14 posted on 03/30/2010 11:02:33 AM PDT by oneolcop (Lead, Follow or Get the Hell Out of the Way!)
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To: SumProVita

The press is really playing up the “Christian” title...aren’t they?
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Yes, during Holy week, no less.


15 posted on 03/30/2010 11:14:52 AM PDT by Canedawg (I'm not digging this tyranny thing.)
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To: lucky american
"Kinda looks like our snowmobile club only these guys are dressed in cammo."

Have you seen their mug shots? lol

16 posted on 03/30/2010 12:09:58 PM PDT by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: lucky american

The media can’t find it in their soulless beings to mention the word “Muslim” when a Muslim actually carries out a terrorist attack. Yet, they plaster the country wall to wall with the word “Christian” in this case where no body was even murdered. Evil. Man, I hope Americans make them pay.


17 posted on 03/30/2010 4:25:51 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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