Trey Grayson: "We have to rid ourselves of private ownership.." (video heavily edited)

YouTube ^ | 3-25-2010 | 11777GOP

[Rodebrecht]

Straight from Trey "It's the government's money" Grayson's red mouth.

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Mod note, original video is edited out of context. Full video can be found here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-WAw8iiemw

[GeronL]

Who is he??

Besides an idiot, I mean.

Obvious question: WHo would pay taxes? lol

[Bob Buchholz]

I agree that this video has a part of a sentence with no context. I think that the poster is just smart enough to try to get away with something.

[mnehring]

See #15- this is just info I was reading from another forum earlier about the tape. Not first hand knowledge of what was said.

[ari-freedom]

“Better a candidate more like Ron Paul than Barack Hussein Obama.”

what difference? They’d both sell out our national security to Iran and al qaeda

[Forward the Light Brigade]

Sounds like Neo-Marxism to me. We really need to send these guys out of Washington. They have infected and destroyed the Democrat Party.

[sodpoodle]

During my live webcast January 14th, I talked about the problems we face as a country: growing unemployment, skyrocketing deficits, out-of-control spending in Washington, our nation's dependence on foreign energy, threats to our national security, and more. Interested Kentucky voters were given an unprecedented opportunity to weigh in on these problems, to ask questions and share their ideas. Instead of tackling these problems in common sense ways that stress individual responsibility and fiscal restraint, the liberal majority in Washington believes spending more tax dollars and expanding government will solve our problems. Clearly that's not working. Now more than ever before, we need representatives in Washington who will stand up for taxpayers by proposing and supporting innovative reforms that will cut spending, reduce the deficit and free small business men and women to create jobs and get our economy growing again. These are some of my ideas for doing that. Spending Freeze ◦Implement two-year budget cycles to increase legislative oversight ◦Limit non-defense, non-veterans discretionary spending to FY 2009 levels across the board for two years ◦Limit future discretionary spending adjusted to inflation every two years End the Bailouts ◦Eliminate the TARP program and dedicate any returned TARP funds to deficit reduction Stop the Wasteful Stimulus ◦End the spending of all stimulus funds not already expended Enact Line-Item Veto ◦Allow the President to send back to Congress wasteful spending for an up-or-down vote End Wasteful Programs ◦Enact legislation introduced by Sen. Sam Brownback to create the Commission on Congressional Budgetary Accountability and Review of Federal Agencies, a commission to evaluate all federal programs to determine which are duplicative and wasteful, allowing Congress to eliminate them or combine them for greater efficiency Balanced Budget Amendment ◦Pass a Balanced Budget Amendment to the Constitution requiring Congress to pass a balanced budget, like the one that exists in Kentucky. Health Care ◦Prevent the IRS from managing health care reform, as called for under the current bill ◦Enact medical malpractice reform to curb frivolous lawsuits and end the costly practice of defensive medicine ◦Allow consumers to purchase insurance across state lines to increase competition and lower costs ◦Allow small businesses to band together to increase the size of risk pools and obtain lower costs ◦Provide full tax deductibility for individuals who purchase private health insurance ◦Make all medical expenses not covered by insurance fully tax deductible ◦Increase the use of medical savings accounts ◦Reduce red tape and government regulation to lower compliance and paperwork costs for medical providers ◦Modernize medical records technology and payment systems ◦Eliminate waste, fraud and abuse in the Medicare and Medicaid systems Energy Independence ◦Stop any cap and trade system from passing Congress ◦Pass a comprehensive national energy plan that encourages the use of domestic energy – an all-of-the-above plan that includes coal, nuclear, bio, solar and wind energy ◦Increase domestic oil production, including off-shore and oil shale Agriculture ◦Promote access to new markets for Kentucky products ◦Permanently repeal the death tax ◦Reduce capital gains taxes ◦Incentives for the development of renewable energy ◦Support private property rights National Security ◦Secure our borders and enforce immigration laws ◦Keep Guantanamo Bay facility open ◦Require that terrorist suspects be interrogated and tried by military commissions, not in civil courts ◦Review TSA and Homeland Security procedures to ensure the safety of airline passengers ◦Review the process of information sharing within the national defense system to ensure adequate safeguards

[SQUID]

No man thinks more highly than I do of the patriotism, as well as abilities, of the very worthy gentlemen who have just addressed the House. But different men often see the same subject in different lights; and, therefore, I hope that it will not be thought disrespectful to those gentlemen, if, entertaining as I do opinions of a character very opposite to theirs, I shall speak forth my sentiments freely and without reserve.

This is no time for ceremony. The question before the House is one of awful moment to this country. For my own part I consider it as nothing less than a question of freedom or slavery; and in proportion to the magnitude of the subject ought to be the freedom of the debate. It is only in this way that we can hope to arrive at truth, and fulfill the great responsibility which we hold to God and our country. Should I keep back my opinions at such a time, through fear of giving offense, I should consider myself as guilty of treason towards my country, and of an act of disloyalty towards the majesty of heaven, which I revere above all earthly kings.

Mr. President, it is natural to man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren, till she transforms us into beasts. Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty? Are we disposed to be of the number of those who, having eyes, see not, and having ears, hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation?

For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth — to know the worst and to provide for it. I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided; and that is the lamp of experience. I know of no way of judging of the future but by the past. And judging by the past, I wish to know what there has been in the conduct of the British ministry for the last ten years, to justify those hopes with which gentlemen have been pleased to solace themselves and the House?

Is it that insidious smile with which our petition has been lately received? Trust it not, sir; it will prove a snare to your feet. Suffer not yourselves to be betrayed with a kiss. Ask yourselves how this gracious reception of our petition comports with these warlike preparations which cover our waters and darken our land. Are fleets and armies necessary to a work of love and reconciliation? Have we shown ourselves so unwilling to be reconciled that force must be called in to win back our love? Let us not deceive ourselves, sir. These are the implements of war and subjugation — the last arguments to which kings resort. I ask gentlemen, sir, what means this martial array, if its purpose be not to force us to submission? Can gentlemen assign any other possible motives for it? Has Great Britain any enemy, in this quarter of the world, to call for all this accumulation of navies and armies?

No, sir, she has none. They are meant for us; they can be meant for no other. They are sent over to bind and rivet upon us those chains which the British ministry have been so long forging. And what have we to oppose to them? Shall we try argument? Sir, we have been trying that for the last ten years. Have we anything new to offer on the subject? Nothing.

We have held the subject up in every light of which it is capable; but it has been all in vain. Shall we resort to entreaty and humble supplication? What terms shall we find which have not been already exhausted? Let us not, I beseech you, sir, deceive ourselves longer.

Sir, we have done everything that could be done to avert the storm which is now coming on. We have petitioned; we have remonstrated; we have supplicated; we have prostrated ourselves before the throne, and have implored its interposition to arrest the tyrannical hands of the ministry and Parliament.

Our petitions have been slighted; our remonstrances have produced additional violence and insult; our supplications have been disregarded; and we have been spurned, with contempt, from the foot of the throne. In vain, after these things, may we indulge the fond hope of peace and reconciliation. There is no longer any room for hope.

If we wish to be free — if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending — if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained, we must fight! I repeat it, sir, we must fight! An appeal to arms and to the God of Hosts is all that is left us!

They tell us, sir, that we are weak — unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a British guard shall be stationed in every house? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance, by lying supinely on our backs, and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot?

Sir, we are not weak, if we make a proper use of the means which the God of nature hath placed in our power. Three millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us. Besides, sir, we shall not fight our battles alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations, and who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us.

The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. Besides, sir, we have no election. If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged! Their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston! The war is inevitable — and let it come! I repeat it, sir, let it come!

It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, “Peace! Peace!” — but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!

Patrick Henry - March 23, 1775

[deltaromeo11]

I agree. We are too far away to see his mouth moving. It’s low quality video and the phrase seems strangely worded.

[AlanD]

He is being taken out of context. I figured that out with the clip being only 11 seconds.

He meant the exact opposite.

[LiteKeeper]

Besides being an idiot, this guy sounds more and more like a marxist!

[Theodore R.]

For yeers, KY sent two liberal Republicans to Washington, Thruston Morton and John Sherman Cooper, but the primary voters thought they were conservatives. Nothing ever changes.

[Theodore R.]

He probably misspoke unintentionally, but KY people are always looking for an excuse to vote Demorat, and they can usually find it.

[sodpoodle]

Someone taped it for a reason and could have messed with it for a reason.

We are all familiar with photoshopping - this looks like video dumping.

Just sayin’

[lmr]

ping.

[mnehring]

From the Rand Paul camp who is spreading this when some people saw the full video and were questioning running with it.

I just saw the whole video. I don't know what to make of that.

It doesnt matter what the context and in this case he doesnt correct anything about it being a misstatement. Run this with the other clip...

There is another thread I'll try to find again where they discussed how to cut it down so the context just appears like you see above.

[Rodebrecht]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-WAw8iiemw

Here it is, within the speech at a Lincoln Dinner he made. Freudian slip, I think.

[Noumenon]

No surprise to any of us with a sense of history - and who also have been paying attention. We’ve been preparing for the inevitable consequences of monsters achieving total control of the apparatus of the state. History’s all too clear as to where this goes. Tyranny will come with a dreadful price for the perpetrators.

[DJ MacWoW]

This looks like a very careful smear job.

Trey Grayson On the Issues

No cap and trade; it kills manufacturing jobs. (Dec 2009)

No government-run insurance; no public option. (Dec 2009)

Primary duty of federal government is national defense. (Dec 2009)

[DJ MacWoW]

Thia is a smear job. See post 38.

[Noumenon]

People need to understand that there are monsters on both sides of he fence.