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Microsoft unveils IE9 public preview
ComputerWorld ^ | 3-16-10 | Gregg Keizer

Posted on 03/16/2010 2:01:51 PM PDT by Justaham

Microsoft today unveiled a public sneak peek of its newest browser, Internet Explorer 9 (IE9), aimed at Web developers and the technically brave of heart.

"The Platform Preview, and the feedback loop it is part of, marks a major change from previous IE releases," said Dean Hachamovich, the browser team's general manager, in a statement issued today before he took the stage at MIX10, Microsoft's Web developer conference, to publicly launch IE9.

Hachamovich promised that Microsoft would update the IE9 preview about every eight weeks, putting the first such update in mid-May with another to follow in mid-July. He did not, however, disclose a release schedule for the successor to 2009's IE8, the browser bundled with Windows 7 .

IE 9 Platform Preview is far from polished, or even finished, Microsoft acknowledged, which is why it has slapped the moniker on the release, a first for IE.

"While it loads and renders Web pages using the Internet Explorer 9 platform, it is not designed to be a complete Web browser," Microsoft said in a fact sheet that accompanied the preview's announcement. "This build is simply a first look at the work Microsoft has done so far and is ready to share with its developer community."

Missing from the browser are critical user navigation tools such as the address bar, as well as security features like the SmartScreen anti-malware filter and IE8's private-browsing mechanism.

To give Web site designers, application developers, and others who want to track the new browser's progress a chance to try IE9, Microsoft has created what it called a "Test Drive" site that showcases the features and enhancements included in the preview.

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To: SmokingJoe

Not everybody sitting at a Windows box is a techie. Back in the day MS used to have a big warning in their technotes that advised the user to perform a registry hack, because it isn’t the safest place to play.

I’m not the only one that things this dialog/ popup is stupid, here’s from your own link:
http://blogs.msdn.com/akshayns/archive/2009/08/19/how-to-disable-internet-explorer-8-welcome-screen-for-all-users.aspx
doesn’t microsoft understand yet that users don’t read this sort of thing, they just click “next” “next” “ok” “next”

And no you actually can’t skip it by hitting the button. If you hit Ask Later it’ll come back tomorrow, and the next and the next until you either go through the stupid tour, or do the registry hack.


61 posted on 03/18/2010 10:12:33 AM PDT by discostu (wanted: brick, must be thick and well kept)
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To: SmokingJoe

I never said anything about removing it. I said I get stuck with it on machines at work, and I just brought up the AutoComplete on one of those machines. An autocomplete you said you’ve never seen in two years.


62 posted on 03/18/2010 10:14:24 AM PDT by discostu (wanted: brick, must be thick and well kept)
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To: discostu
So you’re telling me that in two years you’ve never once had AutoComplete turned on?

# 1. You can set up auto-complete just ONCE and that's it. You don;t have to turn on autocomplete again. Auto-complete does not qualify for your “constant annoying popups when you do it just ONCE and it goes away.

# 2. After you install IE8, you can set all your passwords to be remembered when you log in to your regular sites the first time and that;s it. It never asks you for the password again..ever. So where is the constant pop-ups and questions at?

63 posted on 03/18/2010 10:17:47 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe

If autocomplete is on (which is the default) you’ll get that popup (which you say you’ve never seen) once on every single login or webform. So yes actually that does qualify an annoying popup that will be constant through your first couple of hours, which is long enough to hate IE8.

Found another funny annoyance, I still had that help up that I quoted and I went to use that help file to turn off autocomplete, and it turns out that you can’t get into Internet Options when you have a help dialog up, the menu option is grayed out. You can close help and bring up the Internet Options dialog and it turns out to be application modal so you can’t then bring up help. Absolutely brilliant.


64 posted on 03/18/2010 10:22:37 AM PDT by discostu (wanted: brick, must be thick and well kept)
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To: discostu
Not everybody sitting at a Windows box is a techie.’,/i>

Again that’s what sysadmins are there for. As far as your average home user is concerned, they are very happy to get the IE8 tour after they have installed IE8, because it shows them all the new features that IE 8 has.
It was you that kept blowing hot air about the IE8 tour (which you can avoid by s simple click of the button), no?

65 posted on 03/18/2010 10:23:13 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe

Who’s the sysadmin for my in-laws sitting in their home? And no your average user isn’t happy to get the tour, because if they’ve spent more than a dozen hours in front of a computer they already know those tours are stupid, and not just MS’s all “welcome to the app” tours that have ever been done by anybody are stupid.

And again, no you can’t make it go away by a simple click of the button. That is a lie.


66 posted on 03/18/2010 10:26:43 AM PDT by discostu (wanted: brick, must be thick and well kept)
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To: discostu
If autocomplete is on (which is the default) you’ll get that popup (which you say you’ve never seen) once on every single login or webform,

You set up auto-complete ONCE and that's it. Everything else you do is auto-complete after that, your searches, forms, passwords etc. How can something be “annoying” when its done once and done? I ask you to give me real examples of the 'constant popups" you keep bleating about, and you come up with something that is only done ONCE and that's it? Don't make me laugh.

67 posted on 03/18/2010 10:28:44 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe

Once PER SITE. I’ve got a good 2 dozen sites I hit regularly with logins and passwords, that’s 2 dozen times to see the stupid thing to start. And that’s not even dealing with webforms for ordering things.

I gave you a real example of a constant popup, now you’re dodging and weaving like a bull fighter trying to pretend it doesn’t exist. Sorry bub but your lies just aren’t selling.


68 posted on 03/18/2010 10:31:35 AM PDT by discostu (wanted: brick, must be thick and well kept)
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To: discostu
Who’s the sysadmin for my in-laws sitting in their home?,/i>

THEY DON'T NEED SYSADMIN'S. Get it?
Aunt Martha at home is very happy to see the IE8 tour right after installing IE8, because its tells her about all the nice new features of IE8 in a very friendly, easy to understand manner.
YOU are the one that kept attacking the IE8 tour as an “annoying popup”, no? So I gave you the link, whereby you are given instructions on how to prevent the IE8 tour from running after installing IE8, no? aunt Martha at home don't need that. YOU complained about it. YOU deal with it.

69 posted on 03/18/2010 10:34:18 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: discostu
Once PER SITE.

Nonsense.
You set up auto-complete, once and done.
Let's take here at FR, if you selected “remember my password”, you don't even have to put in anything when you come here. You just point your browser here, and IE8 remembers BOTH your username and your password. No popops, no dialog. Nothing! You will need to get off the crack!

70 posted on 03/18/2010 10:37:39 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe

But they’ll see that stupid popup. And no they won’t be happy to. So they either have to click through the stupid thing, being annoyed by IE8, or banish it until tomorrow with the Ask Later button, or hack the registry to make it go away for good.

It IS an annoying popup. And your links to registry hacks that shouldn’t be necessary doesn’t make it a not annoying popup. Aunt Martha at home won’t like it either. NOBODY likes it. App tours are stupid.


71 posted on 03/18/2010 10:38:23 AM PDT by discostu (wanted: brick, must be thick and well kept)
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To: SmokingJoe

WRONG. I just took that IE8 from one login site to another and BAMMO the autocomplete popped up AGAIN. Just like I said it does, exactly the opposite of your lies. The only way to make it go away after one popup is to turn it off, if you leave it on it’ll popup the first time you fill out any webform (which includes logins) for EVERY webform. Stop lying, if you’ve used IE8 for 2 years you already know what you’re saying is BS.


72 posted on 03/18/2010 10:41:11 AM PDT by discostu (wanted: brick, must be thick and well kept)
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To: discostu
But they’ll see that stupid popup

They will see the IE8 tour, which is not even a popup. It runs within gthe browser, and by far most new IE8 users, are very happy to see that IE8 tour, because they are not techies, and IE8 instructs them, in a very friedly way, on how to use IE8

73 posted on 03/18/2010 10:41:13 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe

The dialog that offers to show you the tour pops up in front of IE8, it IS a popup dialog. And no sorry but nobody is ever happy to see any application tour.


74 posted on 03/18/2010 10:42:23 AM PDT by discostu (wanted: brick, must be thick and well kept)
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To: discostu
WRONG. I just took that IE8 from one login site to another and BAMMO the autocomplete popped up AGAIN

I have logged on to at least TEN sites this morning, NOT EVEN ONE came up with a popup. I never had to put in ANY userid, or password. IE8 already knows all my userids and passwords, which I put in the VERY FIRST TIME I USED THOSE sites over 2 years ago. After that, NO POPOPS, NO PASSWORDS. Just point your brwoser and yo are set to go.
STOP LYING!

75 posted on 03/18/2010 10:44:47 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe

BWAHAHAHAHA, you just admitted I was right. I’ve been saying it pops up the first time you fill out the form, and you just admitted that you got those popups the first time you filled out the forms.


76 posted on 03/18/2010 10:47:16 AM PDT by discostu (wanted: brick, must be thick and well kept)
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To: Justaham

Great IE9 will be bring new and improved problems.


77 posted on 03/18/2010 10:47:16 AM PDT by montyspython ("I don't believe in 'no win' scenarios." - James T. Kirk)
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To: discostu
The IE8 tour is WELCOMED by most home computer users, because it tells them how to use IE8.
YOU complained about IE8 tour. YOU deal with the registry hack to remove it. Most home users happen to LIKE IE8 tour. They DON'T need a registry hack to remove it.
Get it?
78 posted on 03/18/2010 10:47:55 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe

No it’s not. You can lie o yourself all you want, but reality is what reality is and reality is that nobody likes tours, because they’re always stupid. They never actually tell you how to use the app, they just make you click through a bunch of stupid stuff. Once somebody has done more than two app tours in their life they’ve learned the things are a waste of time, and they don’t welcome future ones. GET IT.


79 posted on 03/18/2010 10:49:54 AM PDT by discostu (wanted: brick, must be thick and well kept)
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To: discostu
BWAHAHAHAHA, you just admitted I was right.,/i>

Hey, drugs are not good for anyone's health. You need to get off the crack. I just proved you are lying yet again.

I’ve been saying it pops up the first time you fill out the form”

It doesn't.
You gotta put in a userid and password on every site that you have to log on to.
That is not called “popups”. It's called logging on to a site. No password and userid the first time, you logon for you. Get it?

80 posted on 03/18/2010 10:52:04 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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