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Police surprised by teacher-student sex confession
hostednews ^ | 3-11 | JOHN ROGERS

Posted on 03/11/2010 7:13:13 AM PST by JoeProBono

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To: Wonderama Mama
Mama, I'm pretty sure we all agree with you. I guess the whole "guilty/not guilty" thing is kind of a running joke amongst alot of guys here at FR. Having said that, if any teacher laid a hand on my underaged son (whether he was willing or not) there would be hell to pay.

One more thing to consider about us guys around here. I cannot think of any boy growing up in my class that did not have a crush on one of our teachers at one time or another and would have welcomed any opportunity to hook up with them. I guess it's just a boy thing.

41 posted on 03/11/2010 9:02:36 AM PST by oldvike (I'm too drunk to taste THIS chicken)
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To: Lancey Howard

42 posted on 03/11/2010 9:43:27 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: Wonderama Mama
"...If she was a creepy guy doing this to a 14 year old girl, you wouldn’t be so light...."

Big difference there. A girl is a victim, and can have her life ruined by a male aggressor. A boy who is sexed up by a hot female teacher is, well, I dunno, but the phrase "luckiest boy in the world" comes to mind.

43 posted on 03/11/2010 9:47:37 AM PST by I Buried My Guns
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To: I Buried My Guns
A girl is a victim, and can have her life ruined by a male aggressor. A boy who is sexed up by a hot female teacher is, well, I dunno, but the phrase "luckiest boy in the world" comes to mind.

That's ridiculous, and a dangerous double-standard...

44 posted on 03/11/2010 9:56:03 AM PST by sargon (I don't like the sound of these "boncentration bamps")
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To: MikeWUSAF

Natalie Maines (Dixie Chicks)?


45 posted on 03/11/2010 10:11:56 AM PST by Dexter Morgan (Everyone hides who they are.)
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To: stuartcr
I know, He’s the one that designed and programmed me!!

Designed, yes. Programmed? No.

We are responsible for our own programming. We don't get let off the hook that easy. ;)
46 posted on 03/11/2010 10:27:12 AM PST by mkjessup
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To: mkjessup

I disagree. I don’t believe there is a hook to be let off of.


47 posted on 03/11/2010 11:01:11 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: Wonderama Mama
There's always one person who tossed the onion into the ice cream.

This time it's you.

48 posted on 03/11/2010 11:06:53 AM PST by Lazamataz (Seriously. The only way Obama can possibly pull this out is to declare Martial Law before November.)
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To: stuartcr
I disagree. I don’t believe there is a hook to be let off of.

Of course there is. The 'hook' is a universal flaw commonly known as SIN. Sin is inherent in every human being that ever lived except One, the Man and Savior Jesus Christ, Whose Blood atones for OUR sins in order that we can be reconciled to Almighty God, our Heavenly Father.

God is without sin. God cannot and will not tolerate sin in His Presence. Without the atoning Blood of His Son washing and cleansing us, we would be individually and collectively doomed to an eternity separated from God.

Jesus said "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life, NO one cometh unto the Father except by Me". Jesus also said "The Father and I are One"

There is but one path which provides us Salvation and an escape from what should be our rightful punishment, and that is Jesus Christ.
49 posted on 03/11/2010 11:15:46 AM PST by mkjessup
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To: mkjessup

Again, I disagree.


50 posted on 03/11/2010 11:24:34 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: Jewbacca
I am so glad to finally meet someone who has perfectly followed the laws of G-d since birth.

I'm not certain where you're trying to go with this, but I'll go with my instinct.

Being that this teacher, a woman who was ENTRUSTED with other people's children, not only broke the law of civil society and at the same time spat on the parents that sanctioned their child to her by molesting their son; but also broke the laws of God (and don't be afraid to use His name, there's an "o" in between G and d), I would say that she committed a "detestable act".

I did however say in so many words that I admire her for coming forth and admitting that she did wrong, not only in the eyes of God, but by man's law as well. The fact that she made no attempt to post bail shows that she probably wants to atone for her sins.

Regarding your sarcastic comment about me living the life of Christ? I didn't know one had to be perfect in order to acknowledge God's laws.

Now that you know how I feel about the incident, please share you thoughts.

51 posted on 03/11/2010 1:52:16 PM PST by aSeattleConservative
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To: aSeattleConservative

As to your making fun of Jewish law regarding the name of G-d:

http://www.jewfaq.org/name.htm

As to the substance, you stated “Had she followed the laws of G-d in the first place, she wouldn’t be in the predicament that she’s in today.”

Yes, same for us all -— except for you, who are so holy, apparently.


52 posted on 03/11/2010 3:06:30 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: aSeattleConservative

“sanctioned their child to her by molesting their son; but also broke the laws of God”

According to the Bible I read the male age 14 is considered a man by God. Does yours have something different? The State of California doesn’t agree with my Bible, but their statutes don’t count as “the laws of God” in my eyes.

The woman did break God’s law against adultery. As far as I’m concerned that’s primarily between her and her husband.

And it is clear to me what Jesus would say to Amy Beck: “Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more”.


53 posted on 03/11/2010 3:14:26 PM PST by devere
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To: devere
According to the Bible I read the male age 14 is considered a man by God. Does yours have something different?

It's too bad you stopped there, as the Bible has quite a bit to say about improper sexual relations with a child:

The Bible nowhere speaks specifically of child molestation. Instead both the Law of Moses and the New Testament deal with sexuality in broader terms. The law of the Jews condemns various incestuous relationships, which would include child molestation by a parent. (Leviticus 18) It also deals with rape (Deuteronomy 22), homosexuality (Leviticus 18:22), adultery (Leviticus 18:20), and sexual relations outside marriage (Deuteronomy 22). All those topics could include improper sexual relations with a child or adult.

In the New Testament we find similar passages. Romans 1 talks against sexual sin 'against nature'. He also talks about adultery, and an implied condemnation of other sins including child molestation. The writer of Hebrews says the marriage bed should be undefiled (Hebrews 13:4), which would include this as well as adultery and fornication. In Ephesians (6:4) and Colossians (3:21) Paul addresses parent-child relationships, which would also rule out incest.

The Bible is not a book of rules for each possible situation, but is a guideline for living in general. The summation of the Law and prophets, according to the rabbis including Jesus, is "love God with all your heart, and soul, and mind" and "love your neighbor as yourself." If we constantly think of the best for God and others we won't be involved in such harmful acts as child molestation.

And it is clear to me what Jesus would say to Amy Beck: “Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more”.

It appears that you and Amy Beck, the teacher that committed this abominable act, disagree. As mentioned, by not posting bail, she actually wants to be "punished".

Do you honestly believe that because Jesus forgives us for our sins, that His Father doesn't want civil government to punish people? (If I ever get in trouble with the law, I want devere on my jury).

The magistrate, the ruler, "is the minister of God to thee for good". All law commands human action; it seeks either to restrain or to urge particular actions. It necessarily says either "Thou shalt" or "Thou shalt not," and it backs these commands to action or restraint with coercion, with sanctions enforced by the power of the sword. The sword and the word are united in law. And because the word commands action by men, the word of law is necessarily a morel teaching, a teaching which seeks to guide the ruled along a particular way of action, of life. This way of life which the law-word commands is what the ruler or lawgiver considers good, and for this reason it is again inevitably a moral teaching, of one sort or another. By teaching men to obey the ruler or lawgiver's commands, via the punishment of those who disobey, who break the law, and by his personal example, the magistrate can do nothing else than teach people moral principles. Link to Civil Government: The Neglected Ministry

54 posted on 03/11/2010 4:09:56 PM PST by aSeattleConservative
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To: JoeProBono; fieldmarshaldj; Perdogg; GOPsterinMA

Looks fairly not guilty.

She walked into the police station and confessed! I’d guess that means her husband found out.


55 posted on 03/11/2010 5:22:21 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN | NO "INDIVIDUAL MANDATE"!!!!!!!)
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To: Impy

I’ve done worse...


56 posted on 03/11/2010 5:25:13 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (Camelot sleeps with the fishes!)
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To: Jewbacca
As to your making fun of Jewish law regarding the name of G-d:

Not making fun, just wasn't aware that His name is used that way. It appears that it's not used often, as after counting how many times His name is spelled "God" in your article, as opposed to "G-d", the score is something like 47 to 2.

Yes, same for us all -— except for you, who are so holy, apparently.

Nope, I'm a sinner like all men are. I guess the diffrence between you and me is: I'm not proud of my sins (wouldn't you say that those that make excuses for sinners and their sins are proud of them?).

57 posted on 03/11/2010 6:26:43 PM PST by aSeattleConservative
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To: Lazamataz
There's always one person who tossed the onion into the ice cream. This time it's you.

At least I'm not a slobbering idiot eating ice cream.

58 posted on 03/11/2010 11:08:05 PM PST by Wonderama Mama (Socialism is great until you run out of someone elses money - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Wonderama Mama
At least I'm not a slobbering idiot eating ice cream.

Right, because you haven't figured out that whole 'spoon' thing.

Hint: put the wider end in your mouth, not the skinnier end.

Hope that helps!

59 posted on 03/12/2010 6:10:52 AM PST by Lazamataz (Proudly hittin' it without looking at the picture since 1999.)
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To: JoeProBono

I volunteer to help rehabilitate her. She needs to be conditioned to only have sex with guys my age.


60 posted on 03/12/2010 6:14:27 AM PST by Poser (Enjoying Prime Rib for 58 Years!)
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