Presidential Memorandum -- A Comprehensive Federal Strategy on Carbon Capture and Storage

WHITEHOUSE.gov ^ | February 3, 2010 | n/a

[Cindy]

ON THE INTERNET:

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/coal/index

[Tuscaloosa Goldfinch]

Uhhh. Does he never quit? He’s like “The Night of the Living Dead”.

[caww]

All of this work builds on the firm scientific basis that now exists for the viability of CCS technology.

Oh really...climategate science is then ignored of course this isn't about science as we all know..it's filling gov. coffers with cash flow...wish I had the skill sometimes to just go off the grid!

[aquila48]

“Uhhh. Does he never quit? He’s like “The Night of the Living Dead”.”

He’s impervious to reality!!

[caww]

What do you mean on the internet? this link goes to fr. or did you mean your souce was the internet..just wondering.

[Cindy]

It means just that ON THE INTERNET.

The link is an index that goes to a FR SUMMARY of all article with that keyword.

[Cindy]

correction: ...all articles with that keyword.

[Bhoy]

The entire idea must be defeated. I think it can only be defeated by the physicists. Not by he fact that the warmers were lying. The AGW Smoking Gun By Gary Thompson So what type of experiment could be performed to test this AGW hypothesis? If there were satellites in orbit monitoring the emission of OLR over time at the same location, then OLR could be measured in a very controlled manner. If, over time, the emission of OLR in the wavelengths that CO2 absorbs decreases over time, then that would prove the AGW hypothesis (i.e., that OLR is being absorbed by CO2 and heating the planet instead of being emitted from the atmosphere). But what if, over time (say, over thirty years), the emissions of OLR wavelengths that CO2 absorb remained constant? That would disprove the hypothesis and put the AGW argument to bed. As luck would have it, that experiment has actually been performed! Three journal papers report the data from three monitoring satellites that have measured the OLR of 1997 and 2006 and compared those measurements to 1970, and they are located here, here, and here. http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/02/the_agw_smoking_gun.html Climate Science: Is it currently designed to answer questions? Richard S. Lindzen, Program in Atmospheres, Oceans and Climate Massachusetts Institute of Technology, September 27, 2008 (what historians will definitely wonder about in future centuries is how deeply flawed logic, obscured by shrewd and unrelenting propaganda, actually enabled a coalition of powerful special interests to convince nearly everyone in the world that CO2 from human industry was a dangerous, planet destroying toxin.) http://www.ecoworld.com/climate/climate-science-is-it-currently-designed-to-answer-questions.html "GREENHOUSE EFFECT IN SEMI-TRANSPARENT PLANETARY ATMOSPHERES” Dr. Ferenc M. Miskolczi Quarterly Journal of the Hungarian Meteorological Society, 2007 (Any imbalance our CO2 emissions caused [is] effectively countered by about 1 per cent decrease in the water vapor amount, and the system still fluctuates around its theoretical equilibrium value. His calculations on the NASA / NCAR atmospheric database proved that the Earth's greenhouse effect does not show any steady increase, regardless of our CO2 emissions.) Summaries of the paper: http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-7715-Portland-Civil-Rights-Examiner~y2009m5d31-Einstein-like-breakthrough-in-Climate-Science http://www.examiner.com/x-7715-Portland-Civil-Rights-Examiner~y2009m6d2-Einsteinlike-breakthrough-in-Climate-Science-Part-2 THE ACQUITTAL OF CARBON DIOXIDE by Jeffrey A. Glassman, PhD (Carbon dioxide does not accumulate in the atmosphere.) http://www.rocketscientistsjournal.com/2006/10/co2_acquittal.html The Great Global Warming Hoax? James A. Peden (Man's contribution to Greenhouse Gasses is relatively insignificant. We didn't cause the recent Global Warming and we cannot stop it.) http://www.middlebury.net/op-ed/global-warming-01.html Greenhouse Misconceptions by Tom Kondis November 2008 (speculators blame IR absorption by carbon dioxide, approximately 0.035% of the atmosphere, for changing our climate. They haven't verified their unique viewpoint by utilizing IR radiation, synthetic gas mixtures and temperature measurements independent from the influences of poorly understood and incompletely considered natural forces that do control earth's climate and weather. Their arguments lack substance and veracity.) http://www.junkscience.com/nov08/greenhouse_misconceptions.html Greenhouse Gas Facts and Fantasies by Tom Kondis May 21, 2008 (advocates of man-made global warming have intermingled elements of greenhouse activity and infrared absorption to promote the image that carbon dioxide traps heat near earth's surface like molecular greenhouses insulating our atmosphere. Their imagery, however, is seriously flawed.) http://junkscience.com/Greenhouse/Kondis-Greenhouse.html Falsification Of The Atmospheric CO2 Greenhouse Effects Within The Frame Of Physics Authors: Gerhard Gerlich, Ralf D. Tscheuschner (Submitted on 8 Jul 2007 (v1), last revised 4 Mar 2009 (this version, v4)) Abstract: The atmospheric greenhouse effect, an idea that many authors trace back to the traditional works of Fourier (1824), Tyndall (1861), and Arrhenius (1896), and which is still supported in global climatology, essentially describes a fictitious mechanism, in which a planetary atmosphere acts as a heat pump driven by an environment that is radiatively interacting with but radiatively equilibrated to the atmospheric system. According to the second law of thermodynamics such a planetary machine can never exist. Nevertheless, in almost all texts of global climatology and in a widespread secondary literature it is taken for granted that such mechanism is real and stands on a firm scientific foundation. In this paper the popular conjecture is analyzed and the underlying physical principles are clarified. By showing that (a) there are no common physical laws between the warming phenomenon in glass houses and the fictitious atmospheric greenhouse effects, (b) there are no calculations to determine an average surface temperature of a planet, (c) the frequently mentioned difference of 33 degrees Celsius is a meaningless number calculated wrongly, (d) the formulas of cavity radiation are used inappropriately, (e) the assumption of a radiative balance is unphysical, (f) thermal conductivity and friction must not be set to zero, the atmospheric greenhouse conjecture is falsified.

[digger48]

[DennisR]

Obama and the Democrats are so far removed from reality it is unbelievable. We will remember in November!

[Texas Fossil]

wish I had the skill sometimes to just go off the grid!

I had Ham Operator friends when I lived in NM that did 25 year ago.

Solar power, wind generator, no A/C, wood stove and a generator only used when they washed clothes.

He was a MD and did his billing with home-brew computer powered by his solar panels and batteries.(I had one like it, but AC power supply)

They were wonderful people ( I accused them of being semi-hippie drop-outs_but they were not)

I could accept the life style change, but my wife would not adjust.

If I had no TV, I would not miss it.

The Web, is a totally different thing. I would be in trouble without it.

But we have a local phone coop that is pretty sharp. They furnish TV feed, Phone and DSL over the same fiber feed line.

If we cannot uncover the hidden history of Obozo and remove him from office, we may all be seriously looking at something like this.

My ancestors did it when they settled this area, 110 years ago.

[The Antiyuppie]

“He’s impervious to reality!!”

They just don’t seem to be “getting it”.

It will be explained very clearly on November 2nd.

[Bhoy]

Yeah you’re right! LOL! I know I know. I used to be able to paste with all links and paragraphs intact but doesn’t now. Just upsets me because I have accumulated a bunch of great articles challenging physics of AGW. I figure you guys already know — and besides my doggie needed a run — so I just pasted.

Anybody who doesn’t know or is interested I’ll make effort to show you what I got.

[caww]

The Web, is a totally different thing. I would be in trouble without it.

Gates and others have developed solar powered computers they are now distributing worldwide to those in 3rd world countries and backwoods/jungle areas where there is no infrastructure. I watched a show on this, amazed to see people in shanties and dirt floors..hauling water etc. yet they had computers!

No, I'm not the hippie type either...but our family use to have a great log cabin we built on a mountain in Bradford County, way in the backwoods over dirt roads, with grass growing in the center of the road. Ha! Such a wonderful experience being there...the living room was mostly picture windows so we often saw bear, deer and all kinds of animals walk thru the property. The fireplace was built from flagstone rock found there...

The log cabin built to accommodate eight..bunk room and master bedroom...and kitchen. We use to sell ski-doos and would take them up there for a weekend in the snow. It was a whole different world...I loved it! But we did have electric and sewer etc. even that far out in the wilderness. I could have lived there without a problem!

I think it helps not being a city minded person. I have lived in several for a time but always return to smaller communities...which is my preferance over city living.

[steelyourfaith]

 

Beam me to Planet Gore !

[SunkenCiv]

For decades, the coal industry has supported quality high-paying jobs for American workers, and coal has provided an important domestic source of reliable, affordable energy. At the same time, coal-fired power plants are the largest contributor to U.S. greenhouse gas emissions and coal accounts for 40 percent of global emissions. Charting a path toward clean coal is essential to achieving my Administration's goals of providing clean energy, supporting American jobs, and reducing emissions of carbon pollution. Rapid commercial development and deployment of clean coal technologies, particularly carbon capture and storage (CCS), will help position the United States as a leader in the global clean energy race.

This initiative will be characterized by the same kind of success associated with his other initiatives. IOW, he's out to kill coal. Thanks Cindy.

[exDemMom]

I hate to say it, but actual carbon capture and storage is dangerous to all life on earth.

I’ve seen estimates where it would be feasible to capture ALL of the CO2 in the atmosphere. Of course, that would seriously decrease the capacity of the earth to support life. It probably wouldn’t wipe out life, but there would be die-offs, and CO2 released from the dead organisms when they decay would become available for other organisms to use. Growth would then continue at the lowest CO2 concentration that allows plants to extract CO2 from the air. There would be less life than now, because, overall, there would be less carbon.

I guess that we’re making good progress on the first step: raising public awareness that the climate is going to change, and we little humans have little or no impact on that. The second step should be to start shouting from the rooftops: “CO2 is essential for life!”

[SteamShovel]

They just don’t seem to be “getting it”.

There are only two possibilities that I can come up with...

..... 1) They are truly clueless and don't get it, setting themselves up for the surprise of their lives in 2010 and 2012

.....or.....

..... 2) They know exactly what they are doing and do not intend to give up power in a fair election. They intend to set up some sort of leftist dictatorship.

I'd like to think it is #1, but my inclination is #2.

I really can't believe these people are THAT stupid. The only answer is intentional destruction of our country and way of life with an iron grip on power afterward.

[Texas Fossil]

I live in a town of less than 700 people. There are roughly 5,000 people in the entire county. (many more cattle than people.)

I could easily and comfortably make the transition, and would love the tech challenge of making it work.

I helped build the first solar powered repeater I ever saw. You could not purchase one commercially. It was installed on a 9,000 ft. mountain top in NM, about 2,500 ft. about average terrain. The repeater, cavaties, batteries and controller were housed in 2 55-gal barrels buried in the ground to stabilize night/day temp shift. The entire system consumed 50 ma quiescent current in standby mode. The only thing above ground was a 40 ft. tower, Phelps Dodge Super Stationmaster antenna and the solar panels. Incredible coverage. There were places I could access the system from 90 miles away.

With a little though and engineering, a person could easily build an earth burmed home with solar electrical and windmill gravity feed water system that would function off-the-grid. Without giving up the creature comforts.

Home brewed wind generators can easily and cheaply be constructed. Have had thoughts about building them from truck alternators. Replace the stator windings with permanent magnets to increase the efficiency. The major problems would be mechanical and design of the blade assembly. (stressed aluminum or lay-up carbon composite)

TF