Posted on 03/02/2010 7:20:53 AM PST by Star Traveler
Well, for the second time in my life, I watched one of these "live busts" into someone's house, with law enforcement rushing the place with guns drawn and ready for a shoot-out...
The first one many years ago I called the police, which resulted in the bust, but with this one, I was just an observer, watching it go down in the house next door.
But, the police all congregated in our front yard before they rushed the house next door. Our house was the only "cover" that they had on four sides of the house they were rushing, so that's why they came at it from our place. On all the three other sides of the house being busted, it was wide-open and anyone would be a "sitting duck" from those sides, in a shoot-out.
It all started with a white Cadillac Escalade driving up, with heavily tinted windows and parking on the wrong side of the street (for the direction it was going) and stopping with its nose on our property (half on the street and half on the property), and three other cars lining up behind it the same way.
Right away I knew "something" was up, but didn't know exactly what, at that second. But, in ten seconds after it stopped, then I knew...
Out of the passenger door jumped out a Tulsa Police guy (had one of those bullet-proof vests on and the pull-over shirt that said "Tulsa Police"). And he had a gun in his hand and the gun was out in front of him. Then everyone else piled out, all with guns in their hands and out in front of them. And then there was a guy with a battering ram.
They headed over towards our front steps of the front porch -- and no... I wasn't worried, even though I happened to be sitting right at the front window, looking out when it all came down.... LOL ...
But, I knew what had been going on with the neighbors, so as soon as I saw them, and even though they were all headed over to our house, I knew they were headed over to the neighbors. But, I decided to step out onto the porch and greet them, anyway.... :-)
Well, as soon as they saw me, I got a very curt "Get back inside!" and that was it. So, since they didn't seem to want to be very sociable at the time, I just stepped back inside and looked out the front window.
Later I counted at least seven cars that had driven up, all of them unmarked, except for one police car, around the "other" neighbor's house (not the one being busted, on the other side of us, from the neighbor being busted). There were about ten or twelve cops, all with guns out and pointed forward of them, and walking in a crouching style, and slinking along the front side of our house, to keep a low-profile so that the neighbor, next door, couldn't see them coming.
When I was at the front window, they were so close to the house that I could have opened the window, reached out and put my hands on some of their shoulders. But, I didn't open the window... however my nose was right up against that window looking out... LOL... (and they all saw me there, but didn't say anything. One cop looked like he was going to come over and talk to me through window, I could see he was just about to do that, but he hesitated and then decided not to, and kept going. And they were all walking along in a half-crouching position, as they move along the front of our house.
I watched as they quickly got over to the front door and I heard yelling and screaming and I heard (I thought) hollers like "Get down! Get down!"... and a bunch of other screaming and hollering I couldn't make out.
There was a cop that had gotten over to the back corner of the neighbor's house, because they have a rear exit to the house coming out of their house, on our side (where we can see it from our house) and the cop was half-way behind the corner of the house, pointing his gun straight out and aimed right at that exit door. He was there for quite a while as (I imagine...) the rest inside "cleared" the house and secured it.
A funny thing was that guy was standing back there and we had four weenie dogs (of ours) barking their heads off at him (about ten feet from him on our side of the fence) and so I yelled at them to stop it and get back inside and they all came back inside... LOL...
The guy was still standing there with his gun pointed at the exit, but he looked at me and kinda smiled and smirked as I got the dogs back inside... :-)
They all drove up at exactly 2 PM, so I imagine that they had it all planned for that time, so that they all arrived at 2 on the nose, as that's when they all came up. I think usually when they do that kind of thing, they usually "stage" at a close-by area, and then all leave at the same time and rush to the location. [And now I remember one other time when I saw a big bust like this, making it three times I've seen this sort of thing come down, and when they did it, they also "staged" at a close-by area. At that time, I happened to be a manager for the building that they were going to rush, an apartment inside, and I stumbled upon them staging before they did it...]
Anyway, about an hour and a half later and they finished all that they were doing inside. I noticed that they searched the cars outside, too. It was probably a drug bust and maybe an arrest in regards to a situation where a baby was taken away from the family there, a few days ago. There was a 16-year old who had a baby (a few months ago) and it was in a coma (recently), being a "shaken-baby" situation and social services took it away. The girl who had the baby wasn't arrested, but the mother of that girl (who had the baby) was arrested and that same older woman's boyfriend was arrested too. It was suspected that they were cooking meth there, at least that was the rumor (didn't know for sure, and you know how rumors are...).
This happened in the Brookside area of Tulsa, roughly near I-44 and S. Peoria, and it's a decent neighborhood, but you never can tell about neighbors.
Fortunately no bullets went flying, and I never heard a shot, so I guess they surprised them pretty well.
It's always interesting to see this sort of thing "up close and personal" -- especially when it's not involving you, personally... LOL... I've seen a number of them up close and personal, as I've said and it's always interesting how they really "rush" the place and do it very quickly. The first one I saw like that was from about 25 years ago, in Oregon, and they had three police agencies, rushing the place in cars, driving up from every compass point (about 12-15 cars, I would say) and all jumping out and rushing the neighbor's house. With that one, I was expecting it since I had called the police and I watched it all go down, too.
So far, they haven't done that to me... and I hope to keep it that way... :-)
1) I hope you’re armed.
2) When are you moving?
Alas, many of us go through similar situations. My neighborhood is on the decline (thanks to liberalism and the entitlement mentality), and it’s not unusual, especially in the summer, to hear gunfire somewhere up the street. Several weeks ago, a dead body was found under the back porch of a duplex that adjoins my backyard. And yes, we have home invasions (which is one of many reasons why I won’t answer the census — don’t want anyone to know I live alone so they can invade my house).
I’d like to get out of here, but fact is you can have these crimes just about anywhere, even in the so-called better comunities.
dude, what kinda neighborhood are you in? meth cooking, shaken babies, police raids?
I hear that there are some bad parts of Tusla that resemble Ft Worth. lol
LOL... nope, not moving... it’s really a nice neighborhood, overall, and once in a while, you might get a bad neighbor (it was a rental property next door; we know the landlord and called him right away when it was going down...). I imagine he’ll be getting them out of there pretty soon.
And armed, yes..., but I’ve never been worried about them, personally... and the police don’t scare me, so I’m not worried.
Scary stuff though. No?
I witnessed a similar thing years ago where I lived, copmplete with the “get back inside!”.
That’s when you start looking at your walls and thinking “vinyl siding, 1/2” sheathing, some drywall...”
We moved a few years later, and we’re happy where we are now.
Sometimes it just ain’t worth it.
Remind me to NOT let this guy pick my next house.
dude, what kinda neighborhood are you in? meth cooking, shaken babies, police raids?
That was "one" police raid, for those particular neighbors, and nothing like that before in this neighborhood. It's a rental property and the property owner (next door) got a bad one... so I think he'll be more careful and we've talked to him too, about it. :-)
The other raids that I was talking about were from two different areas, both of them in Portland, Oregon and many years ago. I've seen three "big raids" with multiple policemen rushing a place. This one would be the third one (and that's over a 25 year period of time).
I got a very curt "Get back inside!"
They trespassed on your property and started ordering you around?
Freakin' thugs. Sue 'em.
In my old ‘hood, we also enjoyed our own “aurora borealis” (the police chopper’s searchlight) on a pretty regular basis in the warm weather.
Not too easy to sleep through that. They’re low, and they’re a lot of noise, and the lights are very powerful.
Kinda like the beginning of an alien abduction sequence in the movies. :)
Glad to hear your dogs survived. That's rare these days.
Scary stuff though. No?
I witnessed a similar thing years ago where I lived, copmplete with the “get back inside!”.
Well, for me, it wasn't so much. I've had a lot of dealings with the police before (I don't mean as a criminal, either... LOL...). I've managed big properties before and have had to call them on numerous occasions and have dealt with them a lot. I've been in many other situations where the police come in with their guns drawn, when I've called them and there's someone threatening another person with a knife for example.
I've been standing there, within a couple of feet of policemen, when they were attacked with a knife that a guy had on him and they all go tumbling right in front of me.
I've had to let them into buildings when they are rushing the place, when they've got their guns out. They seem to know (most of the time) who is the good guy and who is the bad guy.
One time (the time I was mentioning when there was a big bust next door to me that I called them about), I had someone breaking into my garage and I called the police and I was outside in the back alley, looking around for the guy, when the police came up behind me (I didn't hear them) and they said something to me and I jumped. I noticed they had the gun on me at the time, when I turned around when they spoke to me. They sorted it out real quick that I was the guy who called them and they just said for me to get back inside the house. ... :-)
Of course, when I called them, they did say to stay inside the house, but I was mad that someone had broken into my garage and I was goig outside to see if I could see the guy around somehwere... and that's when the policeman came up behind me and I didn't see him.
I guess I don't get scared like that much anymore... :-)
You guys all joke but the 4,500 sq. foot house with marble entry floors and granite bathroom countertops next to mine was raided last week because the occupants (renters) are involved in fraud/identity theft. I was surprised it was “only” fraud since there were swat guys with assault rifles all over the place.
This crap is happening everywhere and even ‘nice’ neighborhoods are being used since they are more low key.
I’d like to get out of here, but fact is you can have these crimes just about anywhere, even in the so-called better comunities.
That's true, you can. And this neighborhood is not one of those declining ones. The people around here in Tulsa know that the Brookside area is not a declining area. It's south and south is better in Tulsa than "north"... that's for sure... :-)
Just last week, over in the "Southern Hills" area (a good area too) a Sonic drive-in burger place was robbed. The guy shot his way in (the door was locked) and robbed the place). That's not too far from us. And also, the Braum's Ice Cream/hamburger place close to us was robbed, too.
Again, not a bad neighborhood, and it can happen anywhere. And these robberies were with the gun out and in the Sonic, as I said, the guy (the same one in both places) shot his way into the place.
So, you just never know...
We’re talking to the owner/landlord for the place and letting him know all the details. We’ve known him for a while, so we’ll be able to check on it, through him. He’ll be the one taking care of it, of course.
This crap is happening everywhere and even ‘nice’ neighborhoods are being used since they are more low key.
Yes it is all over the place. I've always seen and heard of this sort of thing being all over the place, anyway... but as crime gets to be more rampant, it seems that it's more all over the place now...
Yep, I saw it on the news the other day. That’s north Tulsa and that’s the part of Tulsa that you don’t want to live in... :-)
We’re “way south” of that area... LOL...
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