[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

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[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Well,...I think we are making headway.

[a fool in paradise]

There ARE deniers. CLIMATEGATE DENIERS.

I refuse to play “defense” on my position. They make the socialist assertion that man is killing the planet. I say BACK IT UP WITH EVIDENCE.

[Noumenon]

This is more like the ‘bong road to regaining trust.’ Take another hit, you lying, grant-snorfling weasels. We still don’t believe you.

[LibLieSlayer]

Trust must be earned... these guys are out of work and America is no longer hiring.

LLS

[ClearCase_guy]

I'll respect modern science when they admit that they've gamed the whole vocabulary for Evolution.

Belief in Evolution = Science
Sceptism about Evolution = Religion
Evolution = any genetic change. Voila! Evolution is proven to occur!
Species = whatever definition doesn't embarass my current position.
Gradual genetic drift = occuring at incredibly fast rates whenever my current position calls for it.

[equalitybeforethelaw]

Just finished reading a history of Chaos Theory. All recognize Edward Lorenz as the father of Chaos theory. Lorenz, a meteorologist who had designed a 13 equation computer model of weather patterns, noticed that small rounding errors in an equation would cause disproportionate results in output. His insights into this phenomena resulted in the Butterfly theory. His final take on modeling the weather was that the best one could do was about 7 days of accurate forcast before the model imploded and needed to be reset. Amazing insight that Lorenz sees about 7 days of accuracy but the AGW see centuries of accuracy. Who are you going to believe?

[mo]

AGW has been reduced to a carny side show...wait until the fraud suits start to come forward. Problem is Federal agency collusion as well.

[USFRIENDINVICTORIA]

“I would also add that “denier” is one of the worst insults that can be thrown at a scientist, ....”

I disagree. When people uses “denier” as an insult; they simply betray their total misunderstanding or disdain for science; or they reveal themselves as (at best) sophists. They are insulting themselves.

All scientists should have a healthy reserve of skepticism. They should remind themselves that scientific hypotheses can be disproved; but never proved. If a hypothesis is disproved; it follows that it can be denied, on the basis of sound science. The grand theory of AGW has not yet been disproven — but, several of the main supporting hypothesis have been (e.g. the “hockey stick”). The science is most definitely not settled — in fact, the work of true science may just be beginning.