My sincere condolences to Marie....
Posted on 02/27/2010 1:45:00 PM PST by Steelfish
Yes it is.
If you’re still available, could you expand a bit on how suicide is contagious? Please?
Thanks.
Aiii...this is gonna break my wifes heart. She is a fan of Marie.
‘If you’re still available, could you expand a bit on how suicide is contagious? “
I’m not a psychologist so I’m only relating what I was taught in the Air Force. Frequently there would be one suicide and then another and then another. Evidently when someone on the edge hears about someone close to them they move closer to doing it themselves. It becomes an acceptable answer to their problems.
This can be countered by watching those around you and being aware of the signs most suicidal people display. I listed those earlier.
We were taught that if someone displayed those it would be a good idea to talk to them. And not be afraid to ask if they were considering suicide.
I’ve done this myself and it becomes pretty obvious. I’ve asked and been right and also been wrong. I’ve never been sorry I said something.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/suicide/DS01062/DSECTION=symptoms
give some information about the symptoms
Thanks. What you said was very helpful.
My sincere condolences to Marie....
From a Larry King Interview in 2001:
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KING: Let's deal with first things first, and the thing that's getting the most attention is the headline grabber. I guess you knew that when you revealed it, and we will ask you why revealed it, but you were a victim of abuse as a child. You didn't you have to say that. Why?
M. OSMOND: Well, I believe in honesty. I think that that's the one thing I have learned the most from this situation, is to be true to the inner core of who you are. And one of the things that I found out is that I could not speak honestly, Larry, about postpartum depression because what I learned from my research and study and the things that I have found out is that I would say, huge, almost 90-some odd percent of the people who suffer from postpartum depression, have had some form of abuse in their life.
And I prayed about it. I actually gave Warner Books the first draft of the book. Up until a week before they went to publish it, I said: "I'm changing chapters 2 and 17, and this is what I'm going to put into it." And they went, "whoa!" So, the book was really written, and I decided at the last minute that I could not be honest without putting it in.
KING: You don't describe who did it, and you seem to imply that there were a few, right? There were a few instances with various people, or just one person?
M. OSMOND: You know, the details I would rather keep to the past. I'm over that. It was, you know, dealt with and done with. I think the most important thing is that the statement that, you know, I was definitely abused, and it was definitely sexual. And you know, those types of things to go through, you think you are over them, but it is the long-term effects of those types of things that you don't even see. You thinking gets skewed, and I think that is what happened to me, is that is my boundaries were lost.
KING: Let's ask this fairly, though. If the person or persons are still alive, shouldn't they be reported -- not for you, but as a danger to others?
M. OSMOND: Yes, I knew you would ask me that question, Larry. I believe that this situation have been death with, and that I feel very good about how everything is...
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I never understood what the heck she meant by that.
That is truly sad. Prayers for the family.
It sounds like the person/people are dead.
I’m so sorry for your loss and the loss of others on this thread. It is so difficult for those left behind as they wonder how they could have prevented the tragedy. They assume there were ways they could have helped, had they known. My niece’s husband hung himself in the garage at a time when everything was going wonderfully, so the desire to end it all does not necessarily depend upon circumstances. It’s a hopelessness that refuses to yield to hope. May God comfort you and yours.
what a sad thing to hear of such a young person make this decision
Pet scans have been used in research of mental disorders and the conclusion is that during exacerbation's of the disease, the pet scan shows portions of the brain that suddenly are not functioning...Medication and having someone to talk to helps some....it can take several years to overcome this problem...been there, done that...its no picnic for those that have it...
They have found the same problem with schizophrenics. Large portions of the brain do not function...
I was 18 when I tried to take my own life after being rejected by a girl I thought I loved. The trail that I walked up to that time included seeing my mother beaten, myself and my siblings physically and psychologically abused. My older sisters and brother were molested and I felt powerless to have anything in my life that loved me, I was unlovable
When she rejected me I was as clear as a bell, the pain was going to stop and that night was as far as I could go. I went home and consumed a massive amount of medicines I found in the medicine cabinet at home and sat down to die. I wanted the pain to go away more than anything.
For those about to tell me I needed God in my life I was a regular church goer, active in Christian youth and had accepted Jesus as my savior when I was in the second grade. I could not understand why I was going through all of this when I prayed to God to show me where he wanted me to go, to let me escape the daily walking on eggshells, never knowing where the next challenge was coming from. I dozed off and hoped for the best, I was fee.
I awoke the next day and suddenly realized what I had done, I was disappointed and ashamed at the same time. I promised God that day I would never try it again, no matter what he threw at me I would get through it. I talk to him every day and count on him but it is still very tough to do sometimes, they say God never gives you more than you can handle. Well, I think he knows something about me I don't, for even now the thoughts of getting rid of the painful parts of my existence can come into my head.
Someday God will tell me why it was this way, but for you to say it was caused by drugs is to be ignorant and uncomprehending of what anothers life may be to them. Walk a mile in their shoes, with their memories and awareness of life before you make statements like you have.
I only wish I could be as perfect as you, it must be nice to always be right.
great testimony. Thank you and God Bless.. some things in life are very difficult to sort out
I’m so sorry to hear this. Words fail me. Condolences to Marie and her family.
how incredibly heartbreaking.
May God be with this family, and may this boy’s soul rest in peace.
I have a friend whose son committed suicide. As far as I know, his mother never recovered from it. My prayers for his family.
I think sometimes the signs are ignored because most people cannot fathom that someone would actually take their on life. It is a foreign concept to most of us. Of course, afterward the guilt must be immense, if you look back and think, “I should have known.” I heard Walter Koenig (Chekov” say something in an interview last week that made me think he felt guilty and that he had ignored the signs. What a heavy thing to live with (true or not).
Wow, thank you for sharing what must be difficult to talk about. I think God clearly does have a plan for you.
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