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To: Maelstorm

Earth to folks...Rupaul would not be able to make it through boot camp and gays emulate him/her so I don’t think you will see an influx of gays joining the military. First they would have to get through boot camp. Some of them really could not handle that. I really believe that nothing would change. Maybe that one guy who was outted by a former friend would be able to stay, but otherwise I can’t see how those fems would join.


4 posted on 02/27/2010 9:53:13 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator

It will change because then they will demand that the military march in gay pride parades and recruit at gay pride events. It is already happening. Also it will lead to people who dare express any affront to homosexual bad behavior being placed at risk. Say you are in the barracks and sexually harassing language or touching occurs that is considered “all in fun to homosexuals” those that dare report it would find themselves to the disadvantage. People say nothing would change. It already is and for the worse.


9 posted on 02/27/2010 9:57:25 AM PST by Maelstorm (We are umbilicaled to a parasitic beast that feeds off one man so to enslave another to dependency.)
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To: napscoordinator
We have examples in history:

The Pink Swastika
The Homosexual Roots of the Nazi Party
The Divided Movement
This was not the last time homosexual leadership of the Nazis would attack other ideologically dissimilar homosexuals. . .

70 posted on 02/27/2010 12:18:17 PM PST by donna (SarahPAC has donated money to...(wait for it)...Lindsey Graham!)
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To: napscoordinator

I see you apparently haven’t figured out how this ALWAYS works. Just as we dumbed-down education to accommodate minorities who can’t or won’t learn, the military would be forced to lower its physical training standards to accommodate them.

Once homosexual status is given the imprimatur of formal acceptance, the lowering of standards to accommodate them will begin. It’s the same way unions operate. They get their foot in the door and then they start suing and/or striking to get the work conditions, privileges, benefits and lowered productivity standards they want.


94 posted on 02/27/2010 3:25:25 PM PST by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: napscoordinator

Disagree with Ron Paul’s political views and some of his nutty supporters all you want, but if by “RuPaul” that’s who you mean: he served for 5 years as a flight surgeon in the United States Air Force during the 1960’s. Not too many Congressman have served in any capacity.


98 posted on 02/27/2010 4:08:26 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege ("When I survey the wondrous cross...")
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To: napscoordinator

“I really believe that nothing would change”

Perhaps.

But maybe not. Why risk it?

Besides, open homosexuals being deployed to countries and regions where homosexuality is punished by death (think mid-east). Many of those countries do not have a SOFA protecting the servicemen (Saudi is one). So, they are subject to arrest and prosecution and there is nothing we can do about it. . .except remove them from deployments to the worst areas, causing the heterosexuals to pick up the slack and shoulder greater risk.

We would have to remove them from deployment because if they are found prancing about they can be legitimately arrested and prosecuted for breaking their laws and customs, and we are to be sensitive and ‘respect’ their turd-world laws and culture, aren’t we?

Besides, isn’t this what the left wants, our servicemen to be subject to local laws?

And we are supposed to stand fast over that?


100 posted on 02/27/2010 4:53:48 PM PST by Hulka
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To: napscoordinator
Earth to folks...Rupaul would not be able to make it through boot camp and gays emulate him/her so I don’t think you will see an influx of gays joining the military. First they would have to get through boot camp. Some of them really could not handle that. I really believe that nothing would change. Maybe that one guy who was outted by a former friend would be able to stay, but otherwise I can’t see how those fems would join.

Don't be ridiculous.

First, there are plenty of homos who can make it through Basic. Always have been. Just because they like it in the rear doesn't automatically mean they can't run 20 miles, do pushups, or shoot a rifle.

Second, we've already seen what happened to Basic Training when women were allowed in - the physical standards dropped dramatically. Listen to Basic Training stories (doesn't matter which service) sometime of oldtimers who went in before the 80s and compare them to the stories of people who went in after the 80s. The training has been dumbed down even in the combat arms due to political correctness and whiny couch potatoes who have their rich parents call their congressmen when the Drill Sergeant gets too mean. If homosexuality were legitimized in the services, the standards would be lowered, if necessary, to get more gays in.

The number one problem with repealing "DADT" is that there would be no way to maintain discipline. Sex in barracks would be the least of anyone's worries. The real problem would be sex in the field: sex in foxholes, sex in track vehicles, sex out in the middle of the woods, etc. etc. Right now, most combat arms are limited to men only, so when you're out in the field, you have no sex options. If you had mixed-sex combat units, or units which did not automatically penalize homosexual behavior, you'd have rampant problems with sex in the ranks at all times. Because let me tell you - one thing that months in the field will do is make you freaking horny, and these are mostly young guys who are naturally horny in the first place.
122 posted on 02/27/2010 6:41:07 PM PST by fr_freak
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To: napscoordinator; Maelstorm
I stand by the fact that gays will not make it through boot camp. How are they going to????? Have you ever seen them play sports??? They aren’t very coordinated.

You're probably right. Homosexuals aren't noted for being outdoors type people either. I'm sure just the thought of being a Scout Master and going on overnight campouts with 12 year old boys must be repulsive to them.

123 posted on 02/27/2010 6:51:53 PM PST by aSeattleConservative
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