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Without a full birth certificate and school records, Article II eligibility indeterminable.

Posted on 02/24/2010 8:03:58 PM PST by capacommie

Now that the Hawaii Deputy Attorney General spokesperson has refused to corroborate Janice Fukino's statement that Obama was born in Hawaii, and Fukino has refused to abide Hawaii laws in providing a non-certified duplicate of the COLB which Obama already published in non-redacted form...

we do not know where he was born.

And also, without school records, which Obama refuses to provide, and without a birth certificate, we do not know if he's been in the country for 14 years total, or technically if he's reached the age of 35 (verified by certified documentation).

In short, Obama has not one single shred of evidence to prove he is eligible to be president. And his twice published admission against interest that he was born British is evidence that he is INeligible.

Obama's got nada.


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KEYWORDS: certifigate; dunham; hawaii; hawaiihatesamerica; hawaiiisevil; hawaiivsamerica; obama; soetoro
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1 posted on 02/24/2010 8:03:58 PM PST by capacommie
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To: capacommie
Please define the term "admission against interest" and cite the examples you mention.

I'd like to know more...

2 posted on 02/24/2010 8:07:16 PM PST by OKSooner (NoMoBHO)
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To: capacommie

Let’s hope that at least Arizona has the cojones to pass some sort of a “show me your credentials” ballot law so that Zer0 has to at least fess up to his treason!


3 posted on 02/24/2010 8:07:49 PM PST by Noob1999 (LOOSE LIPS, SINK SHIPS)
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To: capacommie
Burden of proof?

Does Zer0 have to prove eligibility or do "birthers" have to prove ineligibility?

Or can we just take Pelosi out and keelhaul her?

4 posted on 02/24/2010 8:07:56 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

Yes.


5 posted on 02/24/2010 8:08:55 PM PST by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: OKSooner

admission against interest
he admits he was born British, which is not in his interest of being eligible since a natural born citizen has no other nation-ties at birth than American

he published this on factcheck and fightthesmears


6 posted on 02/24/2010 8:10:51 PM PST by capacommie
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To: capacommie

Like with ‘anything’ regarding the past of Obama, nothing should be taken for granted or on face value. Both of his books by Obama’s own words can NOT be taken literally. They are nothing more then a facade, a mask of the true background and nature of Barack Obama, created to produce the Obama effect on whomever wants to believe in unicorns and forest fairies.

Too many inconsistencies in his stories, like when he stated he was a few months old when the Bay of Pigs happened, April 1961, when he was supposed to be born in Aug 1961.

Barack Hussein Obama is a total fraud.


7 posted on 02/24/2010 8:19:55 PM PST by syc1959
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To: capacommie

NADA?

He has one of these from every State.

http://www.sos.alabama.gov/downloads/election/2008/general/statecert-democraticparty-2008-08-29.pdf


8 posted on 02/24/2010 8:20:41 PM PST by KDD (When the government boot is on your neck, it matters not whether it is the right boot or the left.)
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To: KDD

yep, that’s nada
acorn-commie infused sos’s who didn’t look at any documentation, don’t even have a photocopy of anything

and if they have a copy of that forged colb that nobody in hawaii will vouch for, that’s a big nada

no school records, nada

and “certified” is a nebulous term


9 posted on 02/24/2010 8:25:08 PM PST by capacommie
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To: syc1959

I think he looks at least 50


10 posted on 02/24/2010 8:26:16 PM PST by capacommie
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To: capacommie
and if they have a copy of that forged colb that nobody in hawaii(except the Republican Governor of the State) will vouch for, that’s a big nada.
11 posted on 02/24/2010 8:32:26 PM PST by KDD (When the government boot is on your neck, it matters not whether it is the right boot or the left.)
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To: KDD

show us lingle’s statement then

Lingle’s office sends out a boilerplate letter noting that it would be illegal for an official to divulge the contents of a birth certificate and related records. It can safely be assumed that in order to verify that Obama was born there, Lingle would have to divulge the contents of his birth certificate. So, those who claim that she verified whether he was born there are in effect accusing her of breaking their laws.


12 posted on 02/24/2010 8:38:13 PM PST by capacommie
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To: capacommie
Having marveled at BUSH v GORE, I would have never thought that it could get better. But it has!! Let all 57 states enact the same legislation/
13 posted on 02/24/2010 8:38:47 PM PST by keving (We get the government we vote for)
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To: capacommie

I’m not going to argue the point. It just isn’t a hill I wish to stand on. I don’t care for Obama. I hope you are right and if not...I hope some other scandal brings him down. There is really no way to bring him down short of impeachment and removal from office by both houses of congress. The separation clause pretty much negates any action the Judiciary Branch may take against the Executive.


14 posted on 02/24/2010 9:04:19 PM PST by KDD (When the government boot is on your neck, it matters not whether it is the right boot or the left.)
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To: capacommie
The Kos COLB for 0bummer.

BC of one of the Nordyke twins born the day after 0bummer.


15 posted on 02/24/2010 9:08:43 PM PST by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid! ... And they call themselves Progressives.)
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To: capacommie

As I previously posted:

“The state health department in Hawaii did produce a “short form” birth certificate for Obama, ....”

Absolutely false statement ...

An OBAMA friendly WEBSITE has produced a SCAN of a document called the short form .... who the hell “produces” documentation needed by posting a SCAN ?

Try that with the DMV.

Or little league.

Where is the original piece of paper? Why, after two years, are we still asking for it???

—— McCain stood up in Congress and handed his original, on a piece of paper, around to everyone who wanted to see it. Why can’t and won’t Bambi do the same???

Why can’t Obama do the same, when he evens says in his ghost written book “I found my birth certificate in a pile of old papers”. Lose it? Somewhere in the $3,000,000 mansion that Tony Rezko, convicted felon, bought for him???

Why can’t he, and won’t he, just hand an original piece of paper to Chris Matthews, or someone else, to hand to and show to , everyone?

Hiding behind a SCAN? Not very Presidential ...

So “Hawaii has produced a certificate” is a laughable mis-statement ...

And while we’re at it:

The SCAN shown on the internet is a Certification of Birth, NOT A BIRTH CERTIFICATE, a SUMMARY which can and perhaps has been changed many times, as O was adopted and then sent back to the USA by his momma.

The original Birth Certificate is called the Hawaiian LONG FORM -— (there are 4 different versions and his CERTIFICATION seems to be usually used for special cases such as after adoptions).

which is why you see on FR “Free the Long Form”.

No scan or anything else of a Long Form BC citing hospital and doctors has ever been produced ———— or scanned. Why?

**********No witness has ever come forward -— no one who was in Hawaii in 1961, NO ONE has ever come forth and said that they were at the birth or afterwards, with statements or photos, ********no doctor, no nurse, no neighbor, no friend -— only people in Seattle and Kenya have made statements about O’s birth.

So, as of today, 2-2010, no one knows the hospital or the doctor’s name since the Long Form has never been produced.

Even the neighbor has said “Gee, I didn’t know Obama or his mother ever lived next door”. Must be invisible.

Any person with common sense knows that this guy doesn’t wave his paper long form or even short form birth certificate over and around his head cuz he can’t. Why can’t he? No one knows for certain.

Two announcements in the newspapers: these are produced automatically when someone files notice of a birth with the Department in Hawaii. No proof needs to be filed, it seems it even could have been done over the phone and with just one grandparent’s statement. Then the data was given to the newspapers. This was done since the grandparents wanted Bambi to be an American, which Hawaii allowed to be done due to its unusual and unique laws letting people born elsewhere still register in Hawaii. It’s not a “conspiracy” as that horse’s ass Matthews said - it’s just common sense. An American birth registration is valued very highly and gets you all sorts of travel and other benefits.

*********Does everyone know that Obama’s Short Form serial number is “out of order”? That his number comes 10 numbers BEFORE the twins born and registered 3 days AFTER Obama’s “date of birth”???

How could that happen? Doesn’t the Department registering births handle them sequentially as the dates and data are submitted???

No one finds this odd?

Here is another’s opinion:

Sources who tracked the investigation tell Newsmax that the main target of the breach was the Obama passport file, and that the contractor accessed the file in order to “cauterize” the records of potentially embarrassing information.

“They looked at the McCain and Clinton files as well to create confusion,” one knowledgeable source told Newsmax. “But this was basically an attempt to cauterize the Obama file.”

At the time of the breach, Brennan was working as an unpaid adviser to the Obama campaign.

Chuck Feney says:

The issue that Soetoro / Obama is running from is his mother’s renunciation of his American citizenship when she married Lolo Soetoro.

Soetoro / Obama was an Indonesian citizen and never reclaimed his American citizenship in the legally allotted time frame to do so.

Add to this issue his Occidental College records of admittance as a FOREIGN student and it is clear that the Kenyan birth is a straw dog.
It just goes on and on.

I wonder if we’ll ever know the true story, as the true believer’s continue to shout and scream and cover-up and excuse upon each and every new revelation.

The insults to us alone are overwhelming.


16 posted on 02/24/2010 11:39:14 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: LucyT; STARWISE

Ping.


17 posted on 02/24/2010 11:40:35 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: capacommie
George Bush birth doctor and name of birth hospital.

Does anyone know the name of George Bush,the son, birth doctor and the name of his birth hospital?

How about Clinton?

If you don't know, do you know who we can contact to find out? Thanks.

18 posted on 02/25/2010 2:04:29 AM PST by john mirse
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To: capacommie
Obama: Who was his birth doctor at Kapiolani Hospital, where Obama and his supporters claim that he was born?

Nobody seems to know and Obama isn't telling.

On the other hand, who was President Bush,the son, birth doctor?

Below is information about President Bush's birth doctor that I found at World Net Daily that I thought posters here might find interesting:

"President Clinton was born in a hospital in Arkansas that has since burned down and is the only hospital birthplace of a president currently displaying a marker.

The third president born in a medical facility, George W. Bush, was welcomed into the world in 1946 at the Grace–New Haven Community Hospital – later renamed the Yale–New Haven Hospital – in New Haven, Conn.

No plaques or monuments mark the hospital as Bush's birthplace, though the communications office does have a 2-page information packet on the birth and the history of the hospital at the time, including a biographical paragraph on the doctor who attended the 43rd president's birth.

"Margaret (Maggie) Tyler, M.D., delivered the president," the packet explains. "Dr. Tyler was a member of the New Haven Hospital and then the Grace–New Haven Hospital medical staff in the department of obstetrics and gynecology from about 1922-1949. She served a residency in obstetrics at New Haven Hospital from 1919-21 and joined the staff in 1922 as an associate obstetrician."

19 posted on 02/25/2010 2:34:51 AM PST by john mirse
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To: KDD
THE Secretary of States trusted Howard “Weenie” Dean .... the process of proving Obama a citizen was left up to the DNC same with McCain with the GOP. And for the record is "INSANE".

McCain was attacked for being born to an AMERICAN Couple (both citizens of the USA) while on a MILITARY BASE and his father was serving in the US Military. McCain proved his citizenship....

So, why doesn't OBAMA have to rise up to the same standards and prove himself and where he was born and who he was born too?

20 posted on 02/25/2010 3:35:11 AM PST by Paige ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing," Edmund Burke)
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