Posted on 02/23/2010 4:10:06 AM PST by look.a.liberal
Perhaps. Many liberals though like to think of themselves as independent minded types and take pains to appear that way to conservatives.
Intellectuals never have to say they are sorry. They just move on to the next great social plan to implement top down with their statist allies.
They fail to see the havoc left in their wake. The totally destroyed black families in America are a direct cause of intellectuals who thought that eliminating poverty by redistributing wealth would lead to social justice.
What we have as the result is four generations who have no idea of existence and way of life other than looking to the government to give them stuff. Most have no marketable skills, unless their drug dealing acumen can carry over into a sales job. They no longer no how to produce or create, unless you consider out of wedlock babies.
I am painting with a broad brush here and I realize that some do rise out of this and become productive and creative citizens that contribute greatly. The intellectual redistribution of wealth has stacked the deck against them succeeding.
The same behavior used by a mother that carries her child everywhere refusing to let the child learn how to walk would be looked on as an abusive whacked out mother, to the liberals and intellectuals, this is their definition of compassion.
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Hear, hear! Exactly right.
This person is a serious searcher, not a mole or plant or troll. Let's teach him/her a few truths and we can all learn something along the way.
a fellow academic is here, maybe you would care to respond?
Although I do not agree with some of your positions, I'm glad you are here. Respectful debate with whom we disagree helps us sharpen our arguments and our thinking. A constant chorus of only “Me Too”s often just adds to the beer consumption.
A few important points: Some of what you read here will be disturbing, and on occasions, even painful.
On occasion, that will because some FReeper will post a position so far out of the norm that it discourages even the rest of us. We sometimes call them, with some degree of accuracy, the FRaliban.
Something else will be much more disturbing, however. As a liberal in academia, your have been spoon fed a foundation of socio-economic-political beliefs that simply do not pass the test of reasonableness or reality once they are removed from the Ivy Covered Halls where everything is theory and nothing is real-world reality.
It's sort of like an adult child of an alcoholic realizing that most of whet he was taught about life, the fundamental elements of his character and behavior, are simply not true, not productive, not ethical. Discovering the truth about rampant liberalism is akin to waking up one morning and discovering 2+2 does not equal 7.
Welcome. To paraphrase the Chinese, you will be living in interesting times.
Welcome to FR....develope a very thick skin.....you’re going to need it!
I'll just jump into the middle and comment on your convoluted attitude about the Iraq & Afghanistan wars. Of course we expect your unrealistic, regurgitated Liberal response. But in reality, let's be sarcastic for a moment and say you are correct.
Compare World war 2 to our current situation if you will. We spent over 4 Trillion dollars to win that war, over 60 million soldiers, civilians (women, children and elderly included) died for the right to remain free from a tyrannical totalitarian government.
Just 5 years after WW 2 ended, things were still a chaotic mess, but the result slowly started to mend itself and fostered a free World with prosperity included, like the World has never seen before.
Of course, being the Liberal that you are, you would more than likely pick this vast prosperity apart as some form of evil that has fostered pollution, climate change, mass population explosions, starvation, oppression and Imperialist greed. But the result speaks for itself. Without such dramatic prosperity and the better life that was created under liberty and freedom, such prosperity would never have happened.
There is so much more to say, but I will end this brief comment by saying this; You really have not learned much about Conservative Principles contrary to what you claim, because you still hold your convoluted belief system that Government should handle all of our needs. This in and of itself is the very root of tyranny and has repeatedly demonstrated that fact all through the history of the human world.
In short, you have not learned much of anything by lurking here have you? Mainly because you had no intention of understanding our philosophy in the first place.
If one can have an open mind then there is nothing that can not overcome.
Now you will be attacked as a troll to those (and understanding that this is not my board) I would say to those to back off. Here is a fellow American that has a differing point of view and is honest enough to just say that, I think it is refreshing that your honesty and maturity is self evident.
You must also understand that there are some on the rabid left will post stuff just to jerk the chains of the rabid right (and it is done on shall we say left leaning sites. It does not make it right but it does happen.
I hope that there is a modest bit of decorum with respects to differing opinions, and I hope that you understand (at least in my mind) your statement that this administration is no different from previous administrations is in some ways a correct statement IMO. Where we may differ is again perspective.
The problem that I see is the veneer is coming off the elected officials of (for lack of a better term) bi-partisanship (on both sides) and there is little difference. to quote someone far smarter than I "absolute power corrupts absolutely" I do not believe that we are being governed by non-power hungry people.
The ability of DC to destroy this country is becoming self evident. They have forgotten that they govern by the consent of the people, when they will not listen (and I have seen little in their ability to actually listen) we cease to be a Republic, and become little more than a chaotic mass of serfs to the ruling class.
Not rich, not poor can stand up to a government that will do anything to control you and I, until such time as the people throw off the shackles of a tyrannical government.
Fortunately with our form of government, we get to hold a bloodless coup every 4 years. Unfortunately both houses can stay in for life. What I would like to really know is how many people get elected that are of modest means, and leave millionaires, if you can get them to leave.
That really sounds like a RICO or Conspiracy case waiting to happen.
But heck they won't even prosecute a voter intimidation case, so my faith in the rule of law is a bit lacking.
Well, welcome, I hope to chat with you in the future.
PS if your easily offended, be a bit open minded and realize that there are people with differing perspectives.
"I am a liberal. I don't think Obama is more tyrannical or arrogant than past presidents. "
Whatever your political philosophy is, you're just plain ol' not paying attention.
Yeah, just to polite to hold any real positions.
How can someone be a fence sitter on abortion?
You claim to support the Constitution but admit that we’ve strayed from following it. We’ve strayed so far that you think we can’t or shouldn’t go back.
You also think we need a national health care system, which amounts to straying even farther. I think you should examine your belief that you support the Constitution, because your statements show that you don’t — in practice at any rate.
First, you differ from most self proclaimed liberals that appear on this website in that your demeanor is pleasant and you have avoided the use of coarse language. You lack any signs of BDS (Bush Derangement Syndrome)
Second, I sense that you have a firm respect for the Constitution.
However:
- you support optional infantcide (on the grounds that the government should have no control over our bodies)
- you support universal healthcare (so that the government CAN have control over our bodies)
- do not support the enforcement of the Gulf War cease-fire terms (AKA the Iraq war).
You happen to hold precisely the same points of view as Arnold Schwarzenegger.
You sir, are no liberal.
I remember a poll that came out that stated a majority of liberals held post graduate degrees, but also had the highest percentage of high school drop outs.
A majority of conservatives were high school graduates and college graduates.
I thought that pretty much summed up what I already knew. The more education seems to equal the less common sense.
I think it pretty much confirms the term... educated idiot.
Nope. If you believe in the Constitution, you cannot support a public option or Obamacare.
You claim to be an “academic”. Well, color me impressed. /sarc
That being the case, I would hope you’d be able to think abstractly and technically (as you claim) about the perils we will endure with a government controlled healthcare system.
Tell me, do you support having your money stolen from you, as long as the person doing the stealing needs it more than you?
Also, I’m having trouble understanding your lack of understanding on abortion. When does life begin, in your mind? Or, more pointly, how is it justifiable to kill a baby...from a liberal perspective?
Sorry, but I cannot find much reason to be kind to someone who fundmentally believes in the opposite of what I believe. I do not want to get a long with you. I don’t want compromise...not on the specific issues you’ve brought up. When “compromise” is introduced on basic human rights, I will always spit in the face of it.
It is possible to be personally completetly anti-abortion (I am), believe the current law ought to be changed (I most certainly do) and still feel compelled to respect *the legal right* of others to follow the law as currently written and enforced.
That is one answer to your question.
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