Posted on 02/23/2010 4:10:06 AM PST by look.a.liberal
See? This is why I LOVE my convservative peeps on FR. As a liberal, I have always felt VERY welcomed by you guys! It’s refreshing to come here and see the gamut of conservatives just speaking honestly WITHOUT all the PC pretense.
And I have to admit that I have been banned or run off all my old liberal boards because I do not support the One.=)
I searched your statements very carefully and feel I must respond. How in blue blazes can you expect to post here and expect to be treated with any degree of respect and dignity if you fail to take a position on Cheese?
Worst.
Opus.
EVER.
That being said, if you can keep a truly “open” mind, you’re likely to do two things that will damage your standing as a liberal.
1. You’ll learn something here. That will lead you to the next step
2. You’ll realize the Left is wrong and you’ll come over to the Right side of history.
Best of luck. We’ll be here to support you when you’re ready for Steps 1 and 2.
Where ya been?
And I am much better at stuff now. You want I should make you a new non-flashin' cigar?
We simply don’t have the money to run the Federal, State or Local governments as they are currently run. Without default or inflation there is no way to finance the government. There is no tax high enough to pay our current obligations.
High tax rates and redistribution of wealth not only don’t work, the are immoral. By the time someone pays federal, state, local, sales and a bunch of other user taxes they add up to nearly 50% of a persons income. In essence we are all modern day share croppers. What right does the government have to take half of what you earn? Wealth redistribution is even more immoral. Is it reasonable that the majority of people are allowed to vote to steal the work of another person?
One of the most important values I believe in is personal responsibility and avoiding moral hazard by not rewarding bad behavior. Wealth redistribution reinforces moral hazard. Why should someone save for the future when they know that even if they don’t save, the government will provide them with a secure lifestyle?
As a professor in the physical sciences, I have to say the answer posed at the end of your first paragraph is: “Yes”.
As to the diversity mentioned in your second paragraph, the university where I work is one of the most closed-minded, reactionary places I know.
As to the discussion concerning abortion, I would pose the following question to LaL:
If I hit a pedestrian with my car I can be charged with vehicular manslaughter...
If it is a pregnant woman, I will be charged with two counts of vehicular manslaughter.
Perhaps our distinguished “Professor” now residing in the White House could clarify this seeming contradiction . (I doubt it. “Lecturers” like him usually only teach low-level courses where they can do the minimum of damage.)
Not really. A libertarian would never support the idea of Nationalizes Health Care and more government. Most don’t even like the Constitution as they feel it imposes too much government already.
He probably meant to refer to himself as an academician.
“I am an academic also. Specifically, I am an academic economist. And I am conservative. I believe in the free market and believe the role of the government should be limited. In particular, I believe that minimum wage laws cause unemployment (especially among the particular class of people the laws are intended to help). I believe that taxation hampers business, regulation and taxation leads to inefficiency and free trade is desirable.”
Do you support the Federal Reserve’s monopoly?
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“And you call that “choice”? The right to choose to kill another person on the basis of personal convenience? If it is murder to kill a child 5 minutes after birth, why isn’t it murder to kill that same child 5 minutes before birth?”
Scott Peterson was not only convicted of killing his wife. He was also convicted of 2nd degree murder for killing his unborn son.
(Just be thankful you are not on today's to-hit list).
No, your are not. You are a leaf in the wind.
I’m very disappointed in some of you Freepers. This guy came on here and acted very polite. He said he was here to try to understand the conservative point of view. Some of you didn’t even come close to trying to educate him on some of his views. You just started bashing away. These are EXACTLY the kind of people that are trying to understand conservative priciples and very easily could be swayed in their stances by polite and factual points of each topic he raised. Do you think bashing him will sway him or even keep him interested in keeping an open mind to conservatism. I swear, some of you act like you belong on the DU forum. Sheesh.
Come on Laz, we can always count on you to 'hit it'.
I would like to believe that. We got pretty hyperbolic here over Clinton, and the country managed to survive eight years of him. But Obama is different. I honestly believe that he fundamentally hates this country.
I think that the Iraq war was a catastrophic mistake that America won't live down in my lifetime. It weakened America financially, diplomatically and militarily. .
Only in the sense that it gave Congress and the presidency to a particularly left- wing group of Democrats. We will be recovering from this administration for a generation.
Still, I think we have some common ground.
I appreciate any political discourse with the other side that's free of ad-hominem attacks or the insistence that people who think like me want to impose a religious dictatorship. For that I am thankful.
O-TAY!!!
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**I support abortion rights
—You don’t say. That’s too bad. Here on FR, we support the rights of the unborn, not the imaginary ‘right’ to murder those unborn children.
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look.a.liberal: Here’s a slogan to ponder in your academic circles: Equal Rights for Unborn Women. (Keep your hands, syringes and tongs off THEIR bodies.)
http://www.ushistory.org/Declaration/document/index.htm
In the Declaration of Independence: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,”
look.a.liberal, our Government has betrayed us, no?
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