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Mother's pit bull kills Fishtown woman
Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | 02/21/2009 | Craig R. McCoy

Posted on 02/21/2010 4:00:08 PM PST by Kid Shelleen

In what is believed to be the first fatal dog attack in Philadelphia in more than a quarter-century, a pit bull sank her teeth into the neck of a 38-year-old Fishtown woman and killed her yesterday.

The victim, Christine Staab, had been arguing with her mother in their Oxford Street rowhouse and fell backward. At that point, the dog leaped on Staab, said her mother, Barbara Erb

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To: kanawa
Here it is.

Woman attacked by pit-bulls dies
ABC ^

Posted on Sat 20 Feb 2010 02:02:56 PM MST by Chet 99

"FISHTOWN - February 20, 2010 (WPVI) -- Police are investigating the death of a woman after she was attacked by the family's pet pit-bulls."


41 posted on 02/21/2010 5:12:56 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: Global2010

Woman attacked by pit-bulls dies
ABC ^

Posted on Saturday, February 20, 2010 4:02:56 PM by Chet 99


42 posted on 02/21/2010 5:13:51 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: LiberConservative
"I loathe this tap-dancing in FReeperland when it comes to defending Pit Bulls."

That particular issue is being addressed in the following thread (comment #1).

3-year-old fatally mauled by dog [Pit bull]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2456409/posts


43 posted on 02/21/2010 5:16:43 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: familyop
Wrong!
It either illustrates a lack of knowledge on your part or a deliberate attempt to deceive.

MCSO officials originally said that the dogs were pit bulls, but they have since said that they were actually American bulldogs.

44 posted on 02/21/2010 5:16:45 PM PST by kanawa
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To: solosmoke

That is a straw man argument. No one has suggested that other deaths are not as important. A husky can be dangerous, and no one who knows dogs would suggest otherwise. Huskys are bred to work - to pull with a harness. What are pits bred to do? Seems to me it is you that lives in a false reality. Please just stay there. This discussion is a waste of time and I’m done.


45 posted on 02/21/2010 5:21:53 PM PST by 70times7 (Serving Free Republics' warped and obscure humor needs since 1999!)
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To: familyop
It looks like Argentine Dogo.

See http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/dogo.htm


46 posted on 02/21/2010 5:23:00 PM PST by hamboy
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To: kanawa

The phrases, American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, Staffordshire Bull Terrier, American Bulldog and Bull Terrier are used by pit bull owners in attempts to obfuscate and confuse. For the purpose at hand, they’re all pit bulls. By the laws of many jurisdictions, they’re pit bulls.

It’s common knowledge now, so the attempts to mislead people who aren’t so fond of pit bulls are failing.


47 posted on 02/21/2010 5:24:19 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: Kid Shelleen
"Erb said she would like them back. "It was just a horrible, horrible incident," she said.

One of these dogs killed her daughter. Now she wants them back. Wow.
48 posted on 02/21/2010 5:35:07 PM PST by BraveMan
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To: kanawa
Thanks for the advice; I never knew pit bulls were such a controversy on free republic. I thought dysfunctional mother-daughter relationship was an interesting aspect of the story not given enough attention in the other accounting.
49 posted on 02/21/2010 5:47:16 PM PST by Kid Shelleen (Keep your socialized health care off my body !!)
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To: GunRunner

I’m just getting sick of going to FR and seeing all these incessant threads about dachshund attacks.


50 posted on 02/21/2010 7:36:25 PM PST by dangus (Nah, I'm not really Jim Thompson, but I play him on FR.)
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To: Global2010

“dont screw with the Badger Hunter.”

The only time I have crossed a Doxie lover was when I named my Mother’s new one when I was in college. I suggested the name Fritz, she named him that and then found out that I suggested the name because Fritz Hollins was such a dog as a senator. She was not happy with me. He, unlike the Senator, was a great dog. We still talk about him years later. He lived long enough to nip my son because he got too close to his grandmother at the wrong time. They are loyal.


51 posted on 02/21/2010 9:03:10 PM PST by A Strict Constructionist (How long before we are forced to refresh the Tree of Liberty? Sic semper tryannis)
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To: Luigi Vasellini

Pit Bulls do love children. They eat them quite often according to the news. Most men that own pit bulls is to make themselves feel macho. Don’t fool with me, I have a killer dog! It doesn’t make them a man just shows their inferiority complex.


52 posted on 02/21/2010 11:54:10 PM PST by fish hawk
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To: 70times7
Every time a “pit bull” thread comes on I post it to Solosmoke, who, like you, see no problem with them. I've forwarded four such stories this week alone. If we get for in one week just here on FR, just think what is going on in papers we don't even know about. Your “I do not believe” is simply denying truth and fact.
53 posted on 02/21/2010 11:57:50 PM PST by fish hawk
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To: solosmoke

Four this week. Your starting to look and sound stupid.


54 posted on 02/21/2010 11:59:27 PM PST by fish hawk
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To: fish hawk
"Pit Bulls do love children. They eat them quite often according to the news"

I watched "It's Me or the Dog" yesterday(the American series) with dog trainer Victoria Stilwel.Just before an ad break they put up a small factiod regarding pitbulls...the pitbull is nicknamed 'the nanny dog' because of it's tolerance of children.

My son and daughter both own one and from what I've seen here for the last 5 yrs (and way earlier concerning a few friend's pitbulls) is that they do seem very tolerant of children.Ours are utter saps!Not much chop with other dogs though.

I definently wouldn't trust them with kids,or anyone they don't know well for that matter.No dog can be trusted 100% Most of this vitriol oughta be directed at some of the the people who own them.

55 posted on 02/22/2010 12:22:54 AM PST by mitch5501 (Yeah,but is it shatterproof?)
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To: Kid Shelleen

The photo seems old -a 38 year old druggie wouldn’t look like that so Mom doesn’t even have a more recent photo of her child? Oh wait, this is the Mom more anxious about her dogs than the death of her daughter...nevermind.


56 posted on 02/22/2010 9:12:06 AM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Those who claim to be open and tolerant are often only open to their own views, not yours)
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To: Kid Shelleen
The victim, Christine Staab, had been arguing with her mother in their Oxford Street rowhouse and fell backward. At that point, the dog leaped on Staab...

Just a loyal family pet, defending its owner. < /sarc >

57 posted on 02/22/2010 9:26:15 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., hot enough down there today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: 70times7

“What are pits bred to do? Seems to me it is you that lives in a false reality. Please just stay there. This discussion is a waste of time and I’m done.”

Pit bulls were bred for various things, one of them dog fighting. They were NEVER bred for guarding, NEVER bred to be aggressive towards humans. The incidents that are happening have every aspect of irresponsible ownership, yet you refuse to see it. The fact of the matter is that the experts working in areas related to this issue completely disagree with you.

What expertise do you have that compares? Do you really think your anecdotal evidence and limited personal experience truly qualify you to pass judgment without any actual research? I read every single day on this subject, everything I can get my hands on. What do you do? Read the news? Perhaps I would let this go if you could provide a single bit of evidence from a reputable source to back up your opinion. So far, none has been provided, whereas I have provided multiple resources.

“A husky can be dangerous, and no one who knows dogs would suggest otherwise. Huskys are bred to work - to pull with a harness. “

So how does their job relate to the incident? Did the husky pull the baby around on a harness until it died? Why was the dog even allowed near the baby alone? Same reason why toddlers end up several houses away, their parents completely oblivious: irresponsibility. When it comes to your pets and children, ignorance is no excuse. They should have known better than to leave a child alone with a dog, especially a baby that small.

In the story about this woman, we have five dogs that I would wager are intact or used for breeding and a woman with a history of drug abuse. These are not normal, productive members of society, obviously.


58 posted on 02/22/2010 10:53:39 AM PST by solosmoke
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To: fish hawk

“Four this week. Your starting to look and sound stupid.”

Again, I have proof that your opinions are wrong, and you have news reports, some of which are WRONG, and you are ignoring the findings others have shown you. Where is your proof from reputable sources?

As for your comment regarding my looking stupid, I promise you there’s a pretty high chance if we were to compare IQ scores, you would not be happy with the results, so perhaps name calling should be left to the children. I have loads of great sources from experts to back up everything I have said. You have sensationalized media reports, which you seem to truly believe are proof enough.

The people posting and viewing here are not buying it. People actually prefer real proof in an argument. They do not like being lied to, nor do they like a bathtub full of rhetoric designed to cloud the truth. Perhaps you should focus more on finding that unattainable resource, that single modicum of proof you would need for me and others to change our minds. Until then, post your heart out, because all that is being seen is a rational person putting up statistics, expert opinions, and facts that you cannot deny, compared to your snide comments and media reports.


59 posted on 02/22/2010 11:03:12 AM PST by solosmoke
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To: solosmoke
You should have said, “the pit bull owners here are not buying it”. I am getting feed back from people that agree with me. Like I say, your bias is making you look bias. I'm not questioning your IQ, only your lack of seeing truth and besides that, “stupid” doesn't have much to do with IQ. Obama has a high IQ but he is stupid for not seeing the truth that the American people don't want anything to do with his health care plan. Just like you MAY have a high IQ but can't see truth because of your love for your pit bull.
60 posted on 02/22/2010 11:21:27 AM PST by fish hawk
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