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Birther favorite's new theory: Obama's a CIA mole
Salon.com ^ | February 18, 2010 | Alex Koppelman

Posted on 02/20/2010 6:08:54 PM PST by hennie pennie

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To: parsifal

“parsy, who says did you know Concerto de Aranjuez had words??? The second movement I think, not the Gentle Hombre part”

Are you serious about lyrics to the second movement of Concerto de Aranjuez? Never knew it and it’s tied with Page’s ‘White Summer’ as my favorite instrumental guitar pieces.

sharon, who continues to be amazed at what she learns on FR.


61 posted on 02/20/2010 11:15:42 PM PST by FreeStateYank (I want my country and constitution back, now!)
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To: FreeStateYank

Took me a minute to find the link:

This girl, Tarja Turunen was in a Finnish rock group, Nightwish for a while. Does a KA “Phantom”!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qzuh3MNSOwc

parsy, who says enjoy, and yes there is a wide range of interests by freepers.


62 posted on 02/20/2010 11:25:20 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: FreeStateYank

While I was there, I saw one with the words. I am not good at spanish, but I think it means she is love with some guy in jail,and that is why she is sad. Guess it ain’t just American women.

Anyway, I haven’t heard the White Summer. So, thx, and I am back off to you tube for a while.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDI-kyQe_s8&feature=related

parsy, who asks if you knew you could download the youtube stuff?


63 posted on 02/20/2010 11:33:56 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: parsifal

Thanks for the link.

In return, here’s Page’s acoustic ‘White Summer’ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pvz-ToeZVXc [nice Flamenco and sitar notes]and electric http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrvfMSYNqBg&feature=related

Enjoy!

sharon- who is delighted she finally got to see her beloved Zep at the 2007 London gig.


64 posted on 02/21/2010 12:07:08 AM PST by FreeStateYank (I want my country and constitution back, now!)
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To: FreeStateYank

I will download. Have you seen the Plant and Allison Krause hookup?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WRm3VsmXRE

This one is good. And they have a “Sister Rosetta” song that is to die for.

And Renaissance?

parsy, who is being mauled by his cat, Barack


65 posted on 02/21/2010 12:23:28 AM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: parsifal

Indeed I have. Saw them in concert in 2008 at Columbia, Maryland. Excellent. Love the Zep pieces they’ve re-worked.

Does your cat say, ‘Let me be perfectly clear.’ before he mauls you?

sharon, hoping to see them again...and a Page gig, too. [Reportedly, Page has an entire album ‘in the can’ and he wants Plant to come on board. Not likely :-( ]


66 posted on 02/21/2010 2:35:57 AM PST by FreeStateYank (I want my country and constitution back, now!)
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To: FreeStateYank

No. I usually get a howl or two. Then I have to get out the fishing pole, the glove with ropey things, and wear him out a little. He is cooped up in the room with me. Then to the cat tent where he can attack the wall, and he usually manages to fall off the bed in it. I tried squirting him with water but I think he views it as playing, too.

parsy, who says, “Cats!”


67 posted on 02/21/2010 1:40:26 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: parsifal

‘Cooped up in the room’

Do you have him down in the root cellar watching you indulge yourself on home-jarred pickles? No wonder the poor thing is protesting!

sharon, who is hungry and will make a ham & provolone sandwich with a couple of Vlasic pickles tossed on for crunchy goodness.


68 posted on 02/21/2010 1:59:58 PM PST by FreeStateYank (I want my country and constitution back, now!)
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To: FreeStateYank

I got scared out of the root cellar a few weeks back by a waterbug. Big flying sucker. Time for that trip to end....Barack is a stray my sister saved. He was sneaking in the grocery store and stuff so his days of freedom were numbered. But, he ain’t had shots, and her other cats are wusses, so he stays in the room with me. Plus they don’t trust him since he jumped on the dog, and also on my mom’s minny Shitzoo, or whatever they’re called. I had to change his name from “Tony” to irritate my family who are like full blown Birther-Tea Party GOP’ers who think the prez is a Kenyan Muslim commie.

parsy, who will convert them by sheer force of his overpowering logic


69 posted on 02/21/2010 2:05:53 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: parsifal

Ah, well, I can’t blame you for, er, bugging out upon discovery of a bug. Stayed at a friends place in the Hague in Norfolk and discovered a MASSIVE bug thingie crawling up the wall...eeeewwww! You never saw two women high tail it out of a room and up the stairs so fast. Next morning we went armed with blunt instruments [stating ‘after you’ and ‘No, I insist, you first’] but it had gone on it’s merry way.

Now, I don’t want to ruin the start of a beautiful friendship, but don’tcha think that when Obama stated his dad was a Kenyan, it put a kink in his qualifications as a natural born citizen per the Constitution and as documented by Vattel and John Jay’s writings on the topic- [just to name a couple of supports for the ‘minds of the framers’]? Not that there is much to be done without leadership and media support, to say nothing of being branded as a kook and getting off track with the important stuff, like sovereignty and the rest of the Constitution.

sharon, who has some powerful logic of her own and supports an individuals right to say what they believe a la Voltaire. [Veritas vos liberabit.]


70 posted on 02/21/2010 2:48:30 PM PST by FreeStateYank (I want my country and constitution back, now!)
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To: FreeStateYank

Sorry for delay. My daughter and grandson came over for a while.

No, I don’t think that O’s Kenyan daddy has anything to do with it at all. Natural born is NOT defined in Constitution and what Vattel or John Jay think is about as relevant as what I think. You really can’t take what two people said, one of them who isn’t even an American say, and base everything on that.

Apparently, there is some basis for O being an NBC. One of the presidents, Chester Arthur?, had an Irish pa. On top of all that, O won the election and has been sworn in.

Finally, if there was any real question as to whether O was qualified, Hillary would have been in court. Or one of her pals. That woman WANTED to be president real bad.

parsy, who agrees that In Wine there is Liberty!


71 posted on 02/21/2010 4:50:27 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: PubliusMM

Well, we’ll have to agree to disagree, IMO.


72 posted on 02/21/2010 6:02:15 PM PST by Bigg Red (Palin/Hunter 2012 -- Bolton their Secretary of State)
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To: parsifal

Hope you had a nice visit :-)

Disagree with paragraph II.

Have you ever seen the media so sickeningly gooey like they were for Obama? [That in and of itself, sent me hunting online. Smelt a bill of goods being hustled on the public.] Have a different slant on the Hillary thing. I think she wanted it real bad, but the sands had shifted behind her back. Bill tried pushing the Rev. Wright thing and I understand there were some hints about Obama’s background. With Chicago crowd, figure whatever Hillary had on Obama, they had a equally thick file on Bill and Hill. Mutually Assured Destruction?

And yes, in wine there is liberty. Amazing the relationship between the two, lol.

sharon, who would really like people in office who believe in the constitution and aren’t grifters.


73 posted on 02/21/2010 8:52:02 PM PST by FreeStateYank (I want my country and constitution back, now!)
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To: FreeStateYank

Visit was nice. Grandson may have wore Barack out.

Anyway, while he was tantalizing Barack with the fishing pole thingie, I found this. The Great Mother of All Natural Born Citizen Pages:

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2009/01/the-great-mother-of-all-natural-born-citizen-quotation-pages/

I have seen the media close to being as gooey. Over Hillary. I mean those last minute pardons. The stolen silverware. The pandering to New York. And, worst, LYING to us all about the VRWC when she knew full well Bubba was screwing around. She could have kept quiet. She could have just stood by her man. But no. She chose to come out lying with the best of them.

Barack was pretty durn oily too. All the “First Black President” crap like that was the most important thing going on. Of course, I was so fed up with the GOP that I would have voted for him if I had voted, just to make a statement. So I am glad I stayed home.

Instead of being so hung up on him being black, it would have been better if somebody had really profiled his experience and personality. He is way too much of a compromiser sometimes and those kind of people make a lot more promises than they can ever fulfil.

A lot of WWII came about because England had Chamberlain, who came across as a totally decent person to the point of being a friggin’ wimp. Like he was going to inspire fear in the Nazis? Obama is coming across like that to me. Not enough guts to back up his own agenda. Of course, he wouldn’t have so much of an agenda if he hadn’t tried the Crap and Played thing on. Dude has his hands full with the economy.

So, nothing will get done. The GOP will probably get back in power and they will do nothing. And “nothing” will fix “nothing.”

parsy, who isn’t trying to sound cynical, just realistic


74 posted on 02/21/2010 9:23:40 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: parsifal

Good! You were off the hook, so to speak, for Barack entertainment :-)

Agree that Obama is like the second coming of Chamberlain, with a dollop of Alger Hiss [Except he’s no where near as smart]

I’ll check out the link, thanks.

The list of Clinton shenanigans, goes on and on... Riady, Chinese missile tech ‘exchange’, Summers and Rubin muzzling Brooksley Born who spoke out against those weapons of financial destruction: derivatives and their work to get rid of Glass-Stegal. Oh, and pulling the ‘W’s off of the WH keyboards. Petty piss-ants.

Agree if we’re left with a RINO choice, it will be same shite, different day. That’s what makes me like Palin. I can see her laying it out on the line. The woman has Thatcher’s spine. We need someone like that. The fact that the left and right seem afraid of her is encouraging.

sharon, who tries to retain her natural optimism in spite of no good reason to do so.


75 posted on 02/21/2010 11:23:50 PM PST by FreeStateYank (I want my country and constitution back, now!)
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To: FreeStateYank

“Summers and Rubin muzzling Brooksley Born who spoke out against those weapons of financial destruction: derivatives and their work to get rid of Glass-Stegal.”

Hey, I’m impressed! I thought I was the only one here who heard of Brooksley. I been jumping on Summers, Rubin, and Phil Gramm for a while, though.

Barack is crashed for the time being. Been linking youtube videos on the “Megan Fox is a Man” thread. I download tons of music videos off it. Need to get them on disks one of these days.

Oh, and re: Clinton, I loved the “Let’s audit our competition BEFORE they even file a tax return!” one. I hate to say it, but Hillary really has become one of the more sensible Democrats.

parsy, who wonders now if she wouldn’t have been better than O.


76 posted on 02/21/2010 11:33:06 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: hennie pennie

Birthers’ favorite old theory: Obama is hiding his Birth Certificate.


77 posted on 02/21/2010 11:34:26 PM PST by FTJM
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To: parsifal

Hah! I saw that thread and went to your MP3 video link. Dunno, that chick has a very big head and very lean hips. Bit scary looking. Your ladies might be right, the woman may not be a lady...in any way.

Brooksley was treated shamefully. The boyz literally kicked her to the curb and forced her out. Hah. She was right. Although I suspect they knew that. They had other plans.

Had Hillary won, the plan would be unfolding, but less scary to conservatives- not so blunt a tool. Which would actually be a bad thing.

Wasn’t it Churchill who said the Americans, having exhausted all other possibilities will eventually come around to the right solution? IMO, we needed to be scared wee-wee less. That is what has finally gotten Tea Party types galvanised.

Think of it. Haven’t you had a growing unease over the past decade or so? That something was not well in the land of the brave, home of the free? Obama’s actions have been like an anvil on the head of the populace and strikes many as a clear and present danger.

Actually, in a perverse way, Obama may be just what the country needed. If McCain or Hillary continued the slow bleed, most ‘normal’ people would still be snoozing. We’d really end up swirling ‘round the bowl.

Just hope people aren’t too late... and they hold the line. Like France’s Maginot line, it’s worn and may not be as sturdy as we’d like.

sharon, who is feeling quite martial at this point.


78 posted on 02/22/2010 12:39:16 AM PST by FreeStateYank (I want my country and constitution back, now!)
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To: FTJM

nope, it’s that supreme court precedent minor v. happersett spells out that a natural born citizen is born in-country to 2 us citizen parents (even obama did too in sr511) and minor also says no statutory citizen can ever be a natural born citizen

you’re an idiot by the way


79 posted on 02/22/2010 12:44:25 AM PST by capacommie
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To: capacommie

hennie penny is the main idiot


80 posted on 02/22/2010 12:45:00 AM PST by capacommie
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