Posted on 02/17/2010 4:04:22 PM PST by Phantom Lord
Alright my fellow Freepers. Have been offered a 1943 Mosin Nagant as a gift. Will be used for target shooting and deer hunting. I know jack squat about this rifle.
Pluses, minuses, thoughts, advice...
Thanks!
Some say that they kick a lot, but my kids were shooting them before becoming teenagers, including my daughter who shot her first one at 10. There is a lot of surplus ammo out there, and almost all of it is corrosive. Make sure you clean the rifle properly after firing surplus ammo through it. Look online for cleaning method suggestions. Most of these rifles are in good shape, as they were re-arsenaled prior to storage, however the aforementioned corrosive ammo will change that in a hurry.
Mine is the second one pictured http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinM91R.htm
See post 42 for arsenal markings.
‘It is a manly gun, supposedly.’
Yup
“#9: Mosin-Nagant M44
Speaking of guns without safeties, here’s the Mosin-Nagant M44 Carbine from Russia. The Mosin was used by the Russians against the Finns, the Finns against the Russians, the Estonians against the Russians, the Russians against the Russians, and the Russians against the Germans. It does, in fact, have a safety, but it’s quite hard to engage. But this is not a complaint one would ever voice in the Red Army. Your officer would reply, “Safety? Safety? Is gun! Meant to kill! No warrior should know he has safety on gun, because he should be killing enemies of homeland! Safety make loud click to aid enemy in locating warriors! No safety!” while pounding his fist on the table.
And the Mosin can kill enemies of homeland. The muzzle blast will vaporize green growth within a few feet of the muzzle, and even if you miss, the enemy will be reduced to shouting “WHAT?” to communicate. You’ll need a recoil pad or shooting jacket. Ordinarily, this might be considered unmanly, but this rifle has a short stock for using while wearing several layers of wool for a Russian winter. It is acceptable to wear padding to fire a Mosin.
Of course, there are also M38, 91/30 and other variations of Mosin-Nagant and all are cool. All, also (except the M38), come with a bayonet. Russian doctrine held that the bayonet was mounted except while traveling in a vehicle, because the Russians understood that an empty rifle could still be a pointy stick—a Viking spear. The Russians loved to spear Turks. So, coincidentally, did the Vikings. This rifle sounds better all the time, doesn’t it? The Finns used the Mosin as a sniper rifle during the Winter War, and their greatest Sniper was Simo Häyhä, who had 500 confirmed kills in 100 days. This is a man the Finns describe as “modest” and “self-effacing.” It’s a good thing the Russians didn’t run into a Finn who was proud and arrogant. They’d have been wiped out.
It fires a 7.62X54R (for “Rimmed”) cartridge, about as powerful as .30-06, and holds the distinction of being in service from 1891 to the present, longer than any other military cartridge. It is still used in Dragunovs, PKMs and other Russian weapons. It’s cheap in quantity. So are the rifles, because they were built for (all variations) over 70 years, by Russia, Finland, Poland, Romania, even the US. As I write this, arsenal-new M44s are $55 to $200. At that price, you should have several, so any guests you have during the Collapse can be outfitted as they receive Enlightenment. Then they can rape, kill, sack and loot with the rest of the men who secure a new Dark Ages to hasten the new renaissance. It will be a manly duty.”
Or maybe not Romanian. Izhvesk is in Russia, right? Serial Number is BE1745.
parsy
Romania only from 1953-1955.
The triangle/arrow is the Russsian Izzy
This it?
http://www.7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinM44S.htm
Basically the same ballistics as the 30.06.
That’s some seriously funny stuff!
If you can get some of the Russian surplus ammo that goes off about a second after you pull the trigger, try it. It’s great for learning not to flinch.
It looks like it, but the markings are not the same. I went to the Romanians and it seems to fit in. Low breech wall. Protected strap holes. Maybe 1945-1948. Thank you so much!
I bookmarked the page.
parsy
PP Sh clones/replicas are available as a semi-auto. If I had the money....
That site has everything about the Mosin. I found a Russian collectors site one time, but I can’t read russian and babelfish has a hard time with technical terms.
I’m a bit late pinging ya to a Mosin thread, but some fun stuff.
(Eh? Whatsat y'say sonny? Speak up I cain't hear ya, been deaf as a post ever since I took that bet about burnin' a hunnerd rounds thru a Nagant!)
Thanks a lot. Lent just started, and now I have a taste for pickles, horseradish, black bread, and Stoli 100-proof.
My nips got hard from reading that list, now I want two of each of the weapons.
Them zombies aren’t just goin’ to kill themselves, ya know.
Exactly. My Mausers shoot well but are touchy.
I can swap bolts and other parts on the Mosins all day.
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