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Intransigent GOP opposition to domestic infrasructure investment is scuttling our global leadership capability in transporation technology.
1 posted on 02/13/2010 7:22:39 AM PST by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green

Westinghouse was the developer and leader in maglev technology for high speed trains years ago. They sold it to China for reasons I don’t remember.


2 posted on 02/13/2010 7:31:17 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: Willie Green

Er, are there any customers who want to travel and can afford to buy tickets? If so, is the fare they are paying sufficient to cover the capital outlay?


3 posted on 02/13/2010 7:38:58 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: Willie Green

I would trust a Chinese “fast train” about as much as the Vancouver luge track.


4 posted on 02/13/2010 7:39:58 AM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: Willie Green

Yeah, Willie - pimping trains again. Last I checked, China was on the edge of a massive bubble from government overspending on infrastructure and development. Yet you look to them for inspiration for this country? And you do realize that Obama and the Democrats love to pimp trains as well? Trains that cannot function without subsidies?


5 posted on 02/13/2010 7:43:41 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Willie Green
Uh, Willie, it isn't just the GOP that's opposed to it. Besides, one of Obama's recent pork projects have been so-called "high speed" trains. But if the majority of the country wanted trains, they would be profitable and wouldn't need congress allocated our tax dollars to fund them. But they aren't, and the only useful mass transit that the government funds falls under the categories of airports and highways. Things all that stimulus cash was supposed to go to, creating all these wonderful construction jobs along the way instead of going into the pockets of Democrat cronies.

As for "global leadership capability in transportation technology", that and 1.50 will get you a barely drinkable cup of coffee.
6 posted on 02/13/2010 7:44:18 AM PST by dr_who
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To: Willie Green

China has 5000 miles of track with 42 trains. That’s 119 miles of track per train.

China has a much denser population with 358 people per square mile. The USA has 95 people per square mile. Plus their population is not used to owning cars. Trains don’t make as much sense for us.

The North east has commuter trains, and a denser population. The trains just aren’t high speed. But most of the country doesn’t have even slow speed commuter trains because it’s not commercially viable. Nobody wants to take trains or buses.


9 posted on 02/13/2010 8:02:27 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: Willie Green

The Chicoms don’t have labor unions to deal with.


10 posted on 02/13/2010 8:08:06 AM PST by iowamark
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To: Willie Green

The best solution for America, is to build nuclear plants so that energy is cheap and plentiful.

Imagine the boon to the economy if electric prices dropped in half.

And if oil costs go too high, we would be in a position to convert to hydrogen or battery power.

I also think we should automate driving. We are getting closer. With GPS, collision avoidance systems, DARPA, etc.

I think we should upgrade GPS until it’s accurate enough to maintain a car in a lane. But automated driving shouldn’t rely on GPS except for routing. It needs to rely on visual examination of the road.

Imagine if most cars were driven by computers that had a very very low accident rate. Just the savings in time and gas from traffic tie ups from the reduction in wrecks would be a huge savings. Not to mention traffic tickets, accidents, auto body repairs, auto insurance, accident related medical care, ambulance chasing lawyers, etc. Plus youth and elderly who cannot drive would be freed.


12 posted on 02/13/2010 8:16:55 AM PST by DannyTN
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China Investing In Fast Trains

Why not? They can't fool anyone into thinking they need more empty cities, so why not empty trains?

18 posted on 02/13/2010 8:31:51 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Willie Green
It's called density. China has it, we don't. When you have four times the density or more in multiple cities in China as compared to the densest city in the US, well, you find that massive transit solutions are used.

Also check out how fast trains operate in Europe and Asia; they do NOT slow down when going through towns, crossing roads, or bypassing stations. Compare that to AMTRAK where slowing down for each crossing or town in required. Going from Shanghai to Nanjing takes about 2 hours via train; going from Seattle to Portland, OR takes 5. They're the same distance. The reason is the at-grade crossings (US has many; China has few and doesn't slow down for those that still exist) and speed through bypassed towns and stations.

21 posted on 02/13/2010 8:50:34 AM PST by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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