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To: Habibi

Well, I’m not sure how many or what types of credentials you would require him to have before he would meet your approval.

But - and this is just hypothetical - what do you do, if you were a licensed oncologist, and you found a simple, unpatentable treatment that worked? A treatment that basically could put most of the people you work with out of business? A treatment that would render the years of study and expense you made learning about different types of cancers pretty much a waste of time at the worst or just a very expensive hobby at the best?

Do you honestly think JAMA would be overflowing overnight with articles and testimonials? Do you think cancer doctors and drug suppliers who have Mercedes and kids with braces are gonna be happy?

A very similar situation is unfolding now in front of our eyes. It is becoming more and more generally accepted that serum cholesterol levels ARE NOT THE PRIMARY CAUSE of atherosclerosis.

We have had DECADES of people telling us not to eat meat, eggs, yada yada, blah blah. And tens of thousands of people have died from coronary artery problems. Including a very large number of people who swore off saturated fats years ago based on the recommendations.

So IF the model is wrong, will they have the stones to admit it?

You’re quite an optimist and have alot of faith if you think it will happen soon!


64 posted on 02/12/2010 10:08:23 PM PST by djf (Sorry to tell you, but "truth"="disappointment". Happy now?)
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To: djf

“Do you honestly think JAMA would be overflowing overnight with articles and testimonials? Do you think cancer doctors and drug suppliers who have Mercedes and kids with braces are gonna be happy?”

Ok, I’ll play with you. Let us suppose that a cure for cancer has been suppressed by Oncologists/Pharma etc.. Unless I miss my guess, oncologists are just as likely to have cancer as the rest of the population. If it is well known within the oncological circles that baking soda cures cancer (and it must be true since they are supposedly suppressing the information), then you would find oncologists with much lower death rates due to cancer.

I am currently unaware that such a scenario is accurate, as the information would have leaked out into the life insurance industry, which would be reflected in their actuarial tables. They, of course, would have cheaper life insurance premiums than the rest of us. Now, not only do you have to have the oncologists, and their MD buddies, and the whole insurance industry in on the cover up, but you have to keep all of them quiet about it so it doesn’t leak out to the rest of the population. Do you really think such an improbable conspiracy is even possible?

No, oncologists are taking chemo and radiation, and having cancer surgery just like the rest of the population in treating their cancers. I suspect that they are dying from cancer at a slightly lower rate than the rest of us since they will spot it quicker in themselves, and get treatment earlier than the rest of us. I have a oncologist friend, that I played in the dust of childhood with long ago. She’s had her cancer surgery. She’s had her chemo and lost all of her hair. Various pubs list her in the top 10 in her field. She’s still following normal protocol for her neoplasm. Your scenario would be big news to her I would think.

Ok, I’m not playing the game anymore. The idea that the medical establishment is hiding effective treatments from the rest of us seems rather paranoid to me. If you really believe such stuff based on the premise that they’re all keeping it a secret from the rest of us, then I am not the only one that is “quite an optimist”, and I would also have to “have a lot of faith” that such an improbable veil of secrecy could be maintained.


89 posted on 02/12/2010 11:23:49 PM PST by Habibi ("It is vain to do with more what can be done with less." - William of Occam)
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