Posted on 02/08/2010 10:07:18 PM PST by libh8er
Call it fascism if you like, but sometimes I think are extreme circumstances where individuals AND their offspring should be sterilized...
Really???? You have no choice in whether you conceive a child or not??
Yes there is an epidemic of fatherless children and it is disgusting that women are more often than not, blamed for the pregnancy, yet no one is forcing the male to deposit the sperm. I get so tired of hearing that males are the victims of an unplanned pregnancy. LISTEN UP JERKS, CHILDREN ARE THE VICTIMS.
And some people don’t see how the fiscal and moral health of our country are related.
Um, woman's “right” to choose (kill what you HELPED create or get child support without legal say from the man who HELPED create said child) ring a bell to what the poster was referring to.
There is no male equivalent to the "hot dog down a hallway." Women who sleep around become like roadkill after a few years: easy to catch and eat, but do you really want to? Doesn't quite hold true for guys.
This issue of paying child support is a separate issue from whether a male has the power to prevent an unwanted pregnancy. With the rare expect ion of a fertile male being raped by a fertile women,men have the power to not conceive a child.
Regarding the man not having any say in whether he pays child support, aside from the fact that he is not forced to conceive a child, you think it is ok to make that child that didn't ask to be born pay for the decisions TWO fertile adults made? I don't think a child should suffer any consequences for actions that they had absolutely no control over. OBTW, the "legal say" is decided by the court. The court would have no say if a child is not conceived. Does the phrase personal responsibly enter the discussion?
Actually, it’s a pretty intriguing statement. I’d instead argue that your response is one of the more inadequately thought-out statements on FR. He’s not saying that men do zero harm by sleeping around, in fact he mentions quite a few really bad things that happen when men sleep around. He just adds to the list one very damaging thing that women cause when they sleep around, hence the “more” damage.
Look at the original premise of the posters example and current reality/laws, not your own POV since they are not law.
BOTH have invited the sperm/egg to unite (Through a consensual act), now who has the “power” to “choose” after that, duh, hence the double standard.
Man wants child, to love the child and provide for the child/woman wants to kill the child = woman gets to kill the child
Man wants an abortion or no involvement at all/woman wants baby and $$$ = woman gets the baby and $$$
Under current law this is a double standard if I ever saw one. I cringe that I had to hold your hand and write that out for you.
Too many people have too much relativety in their moral standards. I remember one girl’s statement that “three in one night is not so bad.” I wonder how many fellas one needed to service to be out and out naughty in her eyes.
I get upset myself when I’m reminded that God does not grade on a curve.
lol...man...you two gave me some good keyboard chuckles for a snowy TN evening and morning...that is a great sense of humour..
yep...it is one of life’s unfairness things which is why girls need to practice some discretion
just logically...without even considering religious mores
for the record...I am not in favor of a man cheating on his wife and kids if she is faithful
but before marriage I think a man needs to know what he needs
There’s nothing wrong with being a slut . . . especially of the Geriatric Order.
So men can screw around all they want to before marriage but women must have limits.
So how exactly does that work?
At one time I did examine Solomon and reached the conclusion that wisdom and intelligence are two different things.
He had 300 wives . . . 700 concubines . . .
One Thousand women under one roof . . .
Didn't anyone explain to this cat about PMS?
That is not what I said precisely but nice twist.
I’m only 52 and been around a bit so what do I know but I’ll give it a shot.
I think men and women are wired quite differently about sex....men more easily stray and should be sure they are ready for fidelity.
Women for biological and shelf-life reasons should be more discreet.
Not to say women can’t go all Caligula too but history has always shown more deference to a woman’s sexual value than to a man’s...and not just because of sexism...again...I hate that sort of word....reproduction being the definer.
I could never have been faithful to the first woman I slept with but I think more women than man can or at least more so.
I call the men sluts too. Both sexes are whores when they shun monogamy and adhere to an abhorrent sexual lifestyle.
Then, we get into homosexuality which in MHO is downright deviant and a true health threat.
Ummmmm, to find out if she was a slut or not?
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