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Where's all the Ammo? (Vanity)
1/25/09 | Self

Posted on 01/25/2010 10:40:58 AM PST by scottdeus12

Hi all - I posted a few weeks ago about obtaining a Carry/Conceal Handgun - thanks for the helpful info. I have not purchased yet, but I'm in the 9mm or .360 Kahr camp right now. I like the fact that I can carry the .380 (P380) in my pocket, and even the 9mm (PM9) might be to large to carry (side holster). I do not want to leave it at home.

Next question I have is ammo - I'm concerned about getting ammo for either the 9mm of the .360...I'm hearing that it's really scarce and expensive right now. Does anyone have any solutions or info to offer? Where are you getting ammo from?

Thanks,

Scott


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To: scottdeus12

I’ve shot a Kahr P380, very nice, snappy but not painful to shoot. It is pricey though.

If you don’t mind single action, look at the sig 238’s, a couple hundred less, about the same size.

Which ever you choose, both are nice.


61 posted on 01/25/2010 2:52:55 PM PST by correctthought (Hippies, want to change the world, but all they ever do is smoke pot and smell bad)
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To: The KG9 Kid

The NRA magazines aren’t concerned about trends, which guns are in which video game or movie.

I’ll take the American Rifleman’s advice over any magazine that gives four stars to any product that paid for a full page advertisement.


62 posted on 01/25/2010 3:14:21 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: scottdeus12

A carry gun needs available ammo (stating the obvious). As 9mm is MUCH more available than .380, I would go with the 9mm.

It’s not just the fact that you need to fill a magazine or two with ammo. You will will need to practice with your carry gun regularly. I have shot about 2500 rounds through my Kimber over the past year to get and remain proficient with it. This is a very important but overlooked point. I could never have done this with a .380 caliber. And the situation does not appear to be getting much better for the forseeable future.


63 posted on 01/25/2010 3:33:17 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: KingLudd; All
Reload for the range. Do not use reloads when you carry or at home for self defense. You want factory stuff only. If things go south and you end up in court, prosecutors will call you a premeditating gun nut who reloaded hoping to have a chance to use it.

I hear this all of the time on gun websites, and yet there is NEVER anything to back it up, where a person was prosecuted and found guilt for using reloads.

Care to post one example?
64 posted on 01/25/2010 3:44:28 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

“As 9mm is MUCH more available than .380, I would go with the 9mm.”

Well, I’m going online to see how much .380 is available...but seriously - for me - the .380 is a much better size. Even the smallest 9mm will be a carry problem for me - I don’t want to use a shoulder holster...either pocket or hip (inside).

Appreciate your advice...where in PA are you? I’m originally from NJ - 35 miles east of Philly.


65 posted on 01/25/2010 3:51:16 PM PST by scottdeus12 (Jesus is real, whether you believe in Him or not.)
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To: scottdeus12

FWIW, I do have a .380 (Ruger LCP) but am in favor of 9mm largely because of the ammo shortage. I also took it out to the range a few weeks back and was amazed at how far off I was. I had not practised with it for awhile (because of the ammo shortage) and so forgot about the longer and heavier trigger pull. I like it as a pocket gun for summer carry, but honestly, have little confidence in it because of the long trigger, and because of the light ammo.

Would much rather have 230 grains on my hip than 95 grains.....also would much prefer a 5 lb trigger. But in the summer, the LCP is almost the only option. Thankfully, in PA open carry is perfectly legal so if I have a belt on I can still carry my Kimber.


66 posted on 01/25/2010 4:06:36 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: scottdeus12
"... If there was a sub compact 9mm that had the footprint of, say, the Kahr .380 - I’d probably get the 9mm...unless any of you know of one like that?"

Find a dealer who carries the Rohrbaugh R9.

67 posted on 01/25/2010 4:36:11 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: Max in Utah
Is your Ruger LCP one of the recalled models that fires when dropped?

You can click here to check.

For carry, I choose to stick to known reliable models with a record behind them rather than jump on the hypewagon every time some second rate firearm manufacturer presents a new model to bump their income and impress the shareholders.

68 posted on 01/25/2010 4:46:38 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: Shooter 2.5
"... I’ll take the American Rifleman’s advice over any magazine that gives four stars to any product that paid for a full page advertisement."

How much do you think manufacturers have to pay to get their product on the cover of American Rifleman and a three page color spread inside?

69 posted on 01/25/2010 4:48:44 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: The KG9 Kid

Don’t try to argue with him. If the NRA ever has a Jonestown, he will be first in line for the punch.


70 posted on 01/25/2010 5:10:56 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: scottdeus12

“I hear you all on this....BUT.....the difference between the size and weight of a 9mm leads me towards the .380....it’s so small I know I’d always carry. If there was a sub compact 9mm that had the footprint of, say, the Kahr .380 - I’d probably get the 9mm...unless any of you know of one like that?”

Sorry. I recommended that between the 2 choices YOU listed, but it’s not what I went with for myself. I chose .40 because it’s remained available - not necessarily cheap, but available. I’m afraid you’re at the mercy of those who are argueing over it, LOL. My pocket guns are a Titan .25 and Taurus Millineum .40, depending on manner of dress/concealability. I have 4 very different guns that shoot .40, one of them that I load w/ 10mm for heavy defense (hand cannon that is not concealable).


71 posted on 01/25/2010 6:20:13 PM PST by Titan Magroyne (Freedom is taken, not given.)
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To: The KG9 Kid
Let me know if you ever meet someone that ends up buying on of these new .380s on the market.

We haven't met, but you've just receive a reply from someone who ended up buying one of those new .380s. A Ruger LCP accompanied me home from the fun show earlier this month.
72 posted on 01/25/2010 6:38:28 PM PST by javachip
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To: scottdeus12
I recently ordered some Fiocchi .380 FMJ from Cabelas.

Natchez Shooting Supplies currently shows PMC .380 FMJ rounds in stock.
73 posted on 01/25/2010 6:50:59 PM PST by javachip
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To: Andonius_99
You’re better off finding something in a 9mm...380 is a PITA to come by, and when it is around, it ain’t for long!

Had to shoot 75 rounds today to figure out why my new Bersa Thunder failed to feed on the last round of every magazine. You've got to hold it like your strangling someone. (and yes I know it's "junk".) Only have 625 rounds left.

74 posted on 01/25/2010 7:05:20 PM PST by Stentor ("Never underestimate the transcendental power of spite and revenge!")
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To: Stentor

Hmmm...I never had problems with my Bersa once I broke it in. I really liked that pistol and wish I hadn’t traded it away. On the flip side, however, I’m also kinda glad I did considering the lack of ammo. How many rounds have you put through it?


75 posted on 01/25/2010 8:09:00 PM PST by Andonius_99 (There are two sides to every issue. One is right, the other is wrong; but the middle is always evil.)
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To: Andonius_99
How many rounds have you put through it?

275. It's all been White Box. You can understand why that is.

76 posted on 01/25/2010 8:39:44 PM PST by Stentor ("Never underestimate the transcendental power of spite and revenge!")
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To: scottdeus12

search ebang.com


77 posted on 01/25/2010 9:29:49 PM PST by guitarplayer1953 (Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to GOD! Thomas Jefferson)
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To: The KG9 Kid

I got my Ruger LCP about a year ago. I had to get on a list to buy one. I was #105 on the list.Some people must’ve dropped off the list because I got mine in about 4 months.It’s high quality, shoots fine, and very concealable.
As for ammo, it’s scarce, but I find it occasionally, and buy 2 or 3 boxes at a time. You aren’t going to use an LCP as your primary range gun, for the most part, but keeping in practice means you only go through a few mags at a time.
Everybody who sees the LCP likes it around here and many say they want one.


78 posted on 01/25/2010 9:54:41 PM PST by gigster
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To: Red in Blue PA

Oh, now...


79 posted on 01/25/2010 10:55:21 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: The KG9 Kid
Modern/recently-produced firearms that are chambered to use .380 ACP are rare

The KelTecs and the Ruger, among others, are very recent and modern designs. The .380 becomes a true pocket pistol, the holster looks like a billfold from the outside, if it prints at all. But the newer KelTec 9mm is pretty small itself, although quite a bit heavier, but not so much larger, than their .380.

80 posted on 01/25/2010 11:40:52 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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