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Anyone use Rosetta Stone language learning software? Any good? Anything better?

Thinking about picking one up but I hate buying things only to find out it's junk that doesn't live up to the hype.

1 posted on 01/21/2010 10:00:33 PM PST by Domandred
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To: Domandred

Bump to see the answers.


2 posted on 01/21/2010 10:03:25 PM PST by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid!)
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To: Domandred

Pimsleur (but that’s not on the computer)


3 posted on 01/21/2010 10:04:28 PM PST by zorro8987
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To: Domandred

I’ve used the Spanish one, it’s ok. Lot of repition of words - they say it, you say it, then repeat. Safer than going to Juarez though!


4 posted on 01/21/2010 10:05:38 PM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: Domandred

I have Spanish - Levels One and Two

You have to commit to it, and learning will come at your own pace.

It doesn’t replicate immersion, but it combines video, audio, sight, verbal, print, and sound as well as a program like it can possibly do.

It towers above 95% of all other similar language programs, imho


5 posted on 01/21/2010 10:06:18 PM PST by re_tail20
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To: Domandred

Because Poland and Hong Kong are the most free economies and have the least taxes in the world, and they welcome Americans, I’d choose Polish. Cantonese or Mandarin would score you bonus points getting a job, but English is, also, an official language.


6 posted on 01/21/2010 10:07:35 PM PST by papasmurf (sudo apt-get install U-S-Constitution)
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To: Domandred
My brother has been using it to learn chinese, and he raves about it. You can request a demo CD to try it before you buy.

I also noticed that the Army uses it.

8 posted on 01/21/2010 10:09:58 PM PST by smokingfrog (You can't ignore your boss and expect to keep your job... www.filipthishouse2010.com)
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To: Domandred

I think it’s the best language learning tool I’ve seen.

Ahem.... I’m pretty sure RS can be found in torrent form. On Demonoid for example.


9 posted on 01/21/2010 10:10:36 PM PST by SeeSharp
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To: Domandred

Yes, French, having fun learning.


10 posted on 01/21/2010 10:10:49 PM PST by rose
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To: Domandred

Like the other poster said, pick up the demo before buying.


13 posted on 01/21/2010 10:22:07 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: Domandred

You can get the same thing from other companies for a lot less money. With Rosetta Stone you’re paying for their advertising. Check some reviews online.


14 posted on 01/21/2010 10:42:17 PM PST by saint
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To: Domandred
I really enjoyed -- and learned quickly -- from the Michel Thomas Method Spanish for Beginners. Thomas developed a method that builds on your existing knowledge of English, increasing learning efficiency. In a weekend, you'll understand the basic structure of the language and be ready to start picking up vocabulary.

Pimsleur's OK, but Thomas is much easier, almost fun. And lots cheaper than Rosetta Stone.

15 posted on 01/21/2010 11:48:37 PM PST by AZLiberty (Yes, Mr. Lennon, I do want a revolution.)
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To: Domandred
I have been using the Swedish version for about six months. I think it is good but you must combine it with other things. For example, I also make flash cards with words and phrases to build my vocabulary and use a book when I am in waiting rooms etc. to understand grammar etc.

What always works best for me is building my vocabulary and learning as many words as possible.

16 posted on 01/21/2010 11:54:49 PM PST by riri (Resistance-It's the New Black)
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To: Domandred

Pimsleur is the best.


18 posted on 01/22/2010 12:46:35 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: Domandred

Try Fluenz. I’ve used both their Spanish and Mandarin. Fluenz is better than Rosetta by far. Use Pimsleur audios for additional vocab after using Fluenz for the fundamentals.


20 posted on 01/22/2010 2:18:47 AM PST by peyton randolph (Obama Luti)
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To: Domandred

Try the 6-month online contract. I did to prepare for going to Germany last year. I only had six weeks, one hour a day, to work with so I completed only a part of the course. However, I was able to do genealogical research in Germany, communicating easily with the staff at the Landesarchiv even though they spoke no English. Also, it was very easy for me to use public transportation and get what I wanted at the hotel, market, restaurant, hairdresser, and such.

I love the course and would definitely go for another language the same way if I were planning an extended trip to another country.

The trick they have at Rosetta Stone is to go directly from meaning (via picture stories) to sentences in the language. No translating or flash cards or memorizing lists of words. I enjoyed every lesson. Another thing they do is analyze your pronunciation. I think that’s why I was confident enough to hold conversations.

You can see I was very satisfied. It was $200 well spent in my view.


21 posted on 01/22/2010 3:37:19 AM PST by Marylander
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To: Domandred

IMO Rosetta Stone is overpriced and gimmicky. The only good part about it is the pronunciation analysis, and that only seems to work for some people. I don’t have the latest software, but up until a couple of years ago, it was vintage 1993 software quality. The flashcards have many errors (according to native speakers), and the vocabulary you learn is largely useless. It doesn’t cover grammar at all, and also doesn’t provide any useful phrases. Save your money.

Pimsleur is alright, and can be found at most libraries, but also has significant flaws: the speakers have a tendency to mumble (at least in Russian), making it very difficult to emulate. Many times I would pronounce a “t” sound, only to find out later it was supposed to be a “d”, for example. Using it in a car, with ambient noise, can be very difficult.

The best approach, by far, that I have found is LiveMocha. It has everything Rosetta Stone and Pimsleur have, and more. You post your pronunciations and writings for native speakers to grade. You can get into conversations with native speakers who are trying to learn English. There is just a wealth of resources. It covers grammar, and people are constantly submitting new flashcards, etc. And it is all free.

Good luck, and if anyone is learning Russian as well, pm me please.


22 posted on 01/22/2010 5:34:11 AM PST by jjsheridan5 (Jim Webb: too little, too late. You are toast.)
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To: Domandred
Oui Senor!
23 posted on 01/22/2010 6:56:29 AM PST by HenpeckedCon (According to the commander in chief, Allah Akbar means "live long and prosper!')
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To: Domandred
We're using it to learn Latin. I like the repetition and reviews. Because it using immersion, the first time through a few of the exercises it takes a bit of guessing to figure out what to do, but the software is consistent throughout so it only needs to be figured out once. That said, I know one adult who is uncomfortable guessing and gets frustrated quite easily by not knowing what to do.

One of the most difficult areas for us has been the grammar. Again, it's the immersion thing. For my 10 & 11yo’s it's taken a bit of explanation when it comes to word forms as they pertain to parts of the sentence. An adult who has a basic knowledge of sentence structure should have little difficulty.

My kids are only through the first lesson and we can already use the language to talk about the things around us — albeit it rather simply. It is good, though, for the kids to see nearly immediately that they can use the language.

I encourage you to send for the demo CD to see what the flashcard method is like. The video introduction on the CD did not run well on my old laptop, however the software itself does not require that much horsepower to run effectively. Having said that, it IS a resource hog. Our 5+ year-old laptop ran the software OK, but if one account had Rosetta Stone running, all other accounts suffered memory shortages.

There are preferences to adjust how closely the pronunciation should be judged. There is quite a gradient. The lower levels are fairly lax.

We use the homeschool version which allows for different levels and subjects of study: ie. reading, writing, grammar and/or pronunciation and how much.

We find the software very useful. I plan to purchase additional languages.

24 posted on 01/22/2010 7:13:05 AM PST by FourPeas (Pray for Malia & Sasha. Narcissistic fathers are very scary when things are not going their way.)
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To: onedoug

ping


25 posted on 01/22/2010 10:56:26 AM PST by windcliff
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To: Domandred; windcliff

“Destinos” for Spanish, sin duda. It’s a video story with text and other good support materials.

If I could find a similar program for Arabic, I think I’d be in business.


26 posted on 01/22/2010 11:22:28 AM PST by onedoug
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