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To: Sectumsepra; InspectorSmith
"According to Larry Sinclair’s affidavit, Orly Taitz knew that Lucas’ BC is a fake!" This is false. It is offensive to see such false statements in FR and especially coming from a new member.

Sinclair's affidavit of September 15, 2009 says no such thing. Sinclair made no statement whatsoever as to Taitz' opinion of the authenticity of Lucas Smith's CPGH BC.

See Exibhit A at the end of this link:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/22039643/LIBERI-et-al-v-TAITZ-et-al-ECF-FILER-Request-for-Judicial-Notice-of-Larry-Sinclair-s-Affidavit-and-Exhibit-A-to-Larry-Sinclair-s-Affidavit-Tran

Lucas Smith's affidavit regarding Taitz' request that he perjure himself affirms Sinclair's similar accusation against Taitz, and Smith's affidavit against Taitz was found sufficiently credible by Judge Carter for Carter to admonish Taitz. Judge Carter's harsh dress-down of Taitz, clearly in part based on Smith's affidavit, was made by Carter with Carter knowing fully well that Smith had also presented an affidavit to his court with the CPGH BC.

In this highly visible case Judge Carter, who must have known Lucas Smith's very public history, refused to let Smith's past "impeach" his testimony in his affidavit and Carter relied on Smith's representations to admonish Taitz.

In the Rivernider case that is the subject of this thread, Lucas Smith has once again made himself available to cross-examination by Taitz, and exposed himself to a full-on effort by Taitz to impeach him under penalty of perjury.

It is not at all typical of fraudsters to deliberately go out of their way to testify under oath, in fact the opposite is true!

We shall see, with the ruling, who prevails and who is found to be credible in yet another federal court. I'm betting that Lincoln will prevail with the testimony of Smith backing him up!

109 posted on 01/23/2010 9:16:48 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

” This is false. It is offensive to see such false statements in FR and especially coming from a new member. Sinclair’s affidavit of September 15, 2009 says no such thing. Sinclair made no statement whatsoever as to Taitz’ opinion of the authenticity of Lucas Smith’s CPGH BC.”

Don’t you also take offense when tenured members lie? It seems that you want to discredit me because I’m a neophyte! That is double standard and is offensive to me especially that you accused me of lying!

I stand by this…” According to Larry Sinclair’s affidavit, Orly Taitz knew that Lucas’ BC is a fake!”…here is the proof…

Page 7 item 11. “I emailed Lisa Liberi and informed her of the statements Dr. Taitz had made about her. I also informed Mrs. Liberi about Dr. Taitz soliciting perjured testimony from me in her (Dr. Taitz) California Case against President Obama and the fact that Dr. Taitz admitted knowing the Kenyan Birth Certificates she filed in Court in her California case, as genuine, claiming President Obama was born in Kenya were fake and fraudulent.”

NOW LET ME EMPHASIZE…. “Dr. Taitz admitted knowing the Kenyan Birth CERTIFICATES she filed in Court in her California case, as genuine, claiming President Obama was born in Kenya WERE fake and fraudulent.”

http://www.scribd.com/doc/22039643/LIBERI-et-al-v-TAITZ-et-al-ECF-FILER-Request-for-Judicial-Notice-of-Larry-Sinclair-s-Affidavit-and-Exhibit-A-to-Larry-Sinclair-s-Affidavit-Tran

‘In this highly visible case Judge Carter, who must have known Lucas Smith’s very public history, refused to let Smith’s past “impeach” his testimony in his affidavit and Carter relied on Smith’s representations to admonish Taitz.’

Yes, I agree…BUT that does not make the Kenya BC real especially now that Sinclair disclosed that Orly Taitz knew that those BC’s were fake and fraudulent

“In the Rivernider case that is the subject of this thread, Lucas Smith has once again made himself available to cross-examination by Taitz, and exposed himself to a full-on effort by Taitz to impeach him under penalty of perjury.”

Yes, that’s correct…and for your reading pleasure check the link below.

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=6305

“It is not at all typical of fraudsters to deliberately go out of their way to testify under oath, in fact the opposite is true!”

That’s not necessarily true, there are those who believe in their own lies that they even appear in court defending themselves without the help of lawyers!

“We shall see, with the ruling, who prevails and who is found to be credible in yet another federal court. I’m betting that Lincoln will prevail with the testimony of Smith backing him up!”

And I’ll bet, Charles Lincoln will lose this one!


116 posted on 01/23/2010 12:59:11 PM PST by Sectumsepra
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To: Seizethecarp

“There is no evidence that Taitz made any attempt to authenticate Smith’s BC, so how could any representations she made to Sinclair in passing be taken seriously?”

Yes! Yes! Yes!...There is evidence that Orly Taitz tried to authenticate the document at the Kenyan embassy. Check the proceedings in Judge Land’s Court related to Orly’s sanctions (I don’t have the link here but I’ve read it)

Here’s the link to make it easier for your locate.

Jack Ryan’ Rhodes v McDonalds et.al.
http://www.scribd.com/people/documents/8640993/folder/115348


130 posted on 01/23/2010 10:57:35 PM PST by Sectumsepra
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